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wgandy
07-16-2011, 09:46 PM
I sure thought it was illegal to remove the serial number from a fire arm. Am I right or wrong about that?

Looks like someone ground or polished off the heal markings......

This thing is even uglier than I am!!!!!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=241075458

paid4c4
07-16-2011, 10:03 PM
If the heel has been ground or polished off in order to remove or conceal the numbers it's a felony to have the rifle in your possession. The person who did the grinding or polishing can also be charged with a felony.
Bill

Big Ben
07-16-2011, 10:23 PM
It's 30-'06 Winchester cal. Never saw one of those before.
Looks like somebody did ALOT of grinding and polishing on that receiver.
There are some interesting holes drilled on the left side though :confused:

paid4c4
07-16-2011, 10:31 PM
I saw the holes on the left side and assumed they were there to support a bracket for a scope like an M1C. It's definitely a bastard.
Bill

jak
07-16-2011, 10:35 PM
How can you legally transfer a rifle if there is no serial # ?

melloman
07-16-2011, 10:48 PM
...It's definitely a bastard.
Bill

And an ugly one at that!

BRUTUS
07-16-2011, 10:51 PM
Maybe if it's a a CAI, or other aftermarket, the # could be elsewhere?? Just spitballing....

timshufflin
07-16-2011, 10:56 PM
Maybe if it's a a CAI, or other aftermarket, the # could be elsewhere?? Just spitballing....


Exactly, many receivers had the number on the side.

timshufflin
07-16-2011, 10:57 PM
Then again, I don't see it on the side either.

Schriv
07-16-2011, 11:09 PM
Just seeing that poor thing makes me want to run down to the vault and hug all of my M1's.
Somebody deserves to be horse-whipped for putting that abortion together.

paid4c4
07-16-2011, 11:20 PM
Exactly, many receivers had the number on the side.

Also the heel looks like it's possibly been "buffed" or altered. There were several CAI for sale at the gun show today for 125 each. I examined one closely and found it to be OK looking. I didn't try to build a rifle with it or shoot, or buy it.
Bill

LEAD POISON
07-16-2011, 11:48 PM
Didn't that law on numbers start in the 60's?
I had a Enfield jungle carbine that was sporterized and ALL the numbers and lettering was polished off.Before 67 ?
I think you can get a number from the ATF&E and stamp it.

HighAngleHell
07-17-2011, 01:36 AM
Surprisingly there are zero bids so far.

HighAngleHell
07-17-2011, 01:41 AM
Thread from the Highroad. http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-254104.html "I just bought a M1 Garand 30-06 made by CAI made in USA. It is stamped on left side of reciever instead of the rear. I had heard they are newer recievers with Milsurp parts. Basicly a parts gun. It looks like it was fully reparked but the stock is waisted. Does anyone know any info on these like: Are the recievers good? safe to shoot, anything will help. Also some parts are stamped BMB which I heard was a Danish mark? Please let me know. Thank you. John"

musketjon
07-17-2011, 03:03 AM
The S/N can be legally ground off of its original position as long as the exact same number is stamped elsewhere on the receiver.
Jon

Dave
07-19-2011, 09:13 PM
The S/N can be legally ground off of its original position as long as the exact same number is stamped elsewhere on the receiver.
Jon

Would'nt that be considered "altered" ? Was'nt it the FFA of 1938 that said serials could not be altered? Restamping it elsewhere, at least to me, would mean its been altered.

musketjon
07-19-2011, 10:07 PM
As long as the number is EXACTLY the same it is not considered altered.
Jon

mixmaster
07-19-2011, 10:39 PM
A number of years ago, The American Rifleman had the directions for converting the M1 to that configuration. To me they were in the process of ruining a good firearm and I was never tempted to do it. A lot of M1s met this fate. Our local gun shop had one for sale for a number of years with no taker. He salvaged the parts he could and the rest is stashed. The obvious screw up was the serial number was erased when they cut the receiver for the scope, But they did re stamp the serial number on the side. The gun shop(The Powder Horn/ Day Arms corp) where I saw it DID NOT have anything to do with the conversion.
Mix