What's going on at the CMP

[canes7]

Eric - I'll buy you two, if it keep you busy enough to go away.

[KnickKnack]

Deputy, look at the polls. Ron Paul came in third. He's not going to get the nomination, but there are a growing number of Americans who see things the way he does. I repeat, it is not just "RT40." People are fed up with this middle eastern shit. Absolutely fed up. I saw a high school friend of mine BLOWN UP by an IED back in November. For what? The guy is a cripple now, he used to be an athlete. To hell with the ragheads, to hell with israel and America for the Americans.

And get your head out of the sand, old man.

Eric

Lots of people followed Chamberlain before World War II and believed him when he said that Hitler would honor his word and not attack Great Britian.

[KnickKnack]

Um, no,xxxxx hates nukes. Unless other countries like Iran want to own them.

He promised you that he would fix eminent domain abuse? Really? I bet Hitler promised that to the Jews and Poles just before he took all their stuff too.

It must really eat you up that a person married into your family, huh?

I'm pretty sure the "people don't like you, either, just because you were born an American.

I wonder what would happen if the U.S. let all the Middle Eastern countries use all their Nukes destroying each other? I'm pretty sure that the fallout would eventually kill everything else on Earth, if the effects of the blasts didn't spin us out of control first. So, yeah, good plan there Einstein.

[deputy85]

KnickKnack one thing, if they do want to use their nukes on each other our permission in it gonna be a big factor in their decision,,

[timshufflin]

Well, there's your first mistake, Eric. Listening to Ron Paul. If he had been President on 9/11/01, we'd be fighting terrorists in our streets here rather than on their home turf. So you just keep taking your little blue pills with the Kool-Aid and living in your delusional Happy Place. When the time comes, we'll stick a weapon in your hands too and you can shoot up all the cute little Bin Laden wanna-be's that you may think are your friends now.

I don't agree with this and I don't agree with rt40. Ron Paul does not in any way represent rt40.

[timshufflin]

You sound a troubled young man. If you espouse yourself a Christian, you forget what religion the most important figure of your church is and was. Jesus is a Jew rt40 and that must trouble you.

[KnickKnack]

KnickKnack one thing, if they do want to use their nukes on each other our permission in it gonna be a big factor in their decision,,

No, that's true. But I see our role as trying our best to keep the "bad guys" from getting the nukes in the first place and doing our best to convince the rest that using nukes would be a really bad idea. Isolating ourselves from the rest of the World and ignoring what is going on is just asking for World War III. If we had ignored Hitler and allowed him to continue, a lot more of the World would be speaking German, a lot more Jews and others would have died, and we'd be all alone to defend ourselves when he or the Nazis decided to come for us.

Please remember that the Middle Eastern Countries have friends very close to us now. It would not be that difficult for them to bring their Holy War to our shores. Especially when we now have a weak President undermining our defense. A person like Ron Paul would just put the last nail in the coffin.

[KnickKnack]

I don't agree with this and I don't agree with rt40. Ron Paul does not in any way represent rt40.

Unfortunately, America is not the Country that it was in the 1940's and 1950's. When we were attacked on December 7th, 1941, almost every American male wanted to sign up and go off to War. When we were attacked on September 11, 2001, many rushed to help, many stood in horror, not knowing what to do and still others blamed America for the attacks and went on their way without a second thought. Yes, there were men and women who immediately wanted to sign up and defend their Country. But they were far from the majority. The thinking has changed back to that of the early 20th Century. Protect ourselves and screw the rest of the World. In that time, the World was a much bigger place, with fewer people and well defined borders. America was prosperus and self sufficient. None of that is true today. The World is over crowded. Technology has brought us all together on an instant basis. Loyality to Country is no longer well defined, especially in America. We are not self sufficient and rely on the rest of the world for most of our goods. We could not afford a World War now. If we withdraw into ourselves and try to defend our borders, any war that comes to our shores will end up being fought all the way to the Northern Mid-Western States. It might be possible to make a stand there, but not without help from Canada and that border is not very secure either.

Let's face it, America is really the last hope for the entire World, and we can't even decide how to defend ourselves now. The War in Mexico has already crept into large portions of the Southwest and our National Parks. Obama still has one more year to completely finish his agenda and totally weaken us. If the Republicans can't get their act together quickly, Obama will have 4 more years to finish the job. Our Republic is quickly turning toward a Dictatorship and the vast majority of Americans are oblivious to it. "Fat, dumb and happy" on the Govenment dime will end the Free America that we know forever.

[timshufflin]

No, that's true. But I see our role as trying our best to keep the "bad guys" from getting the nukes in the first place and doing our best to convince the rest that using nukes would be a really bad idea. Isolating ourselves from the rest of the World and ignoring what is going on is just asking for World War III. If we had ignored Hitler and allowed him to continue, a lot more of the World would be speaking German, a lot more Jews and others would have died, and we'd be all alone to defend ourselves when he or the Nazis decided to come for us.

Please remember that the Middle Eastern Countries have friends very close to us now. It would not be that difficult for them to bring their Holy War to our shores. Especially when we now have a weak President undermining our defense. A person like Ron Paul would just put the last nail in the coffin.

What SPECIFICALLY has Ron Paul said to make you think he's weak on defense? Is being strong on the US Constitution also make one weak at defense?

Here's a thought, how many of you have son's and daughter's? If there were a draft in affect over the last 15 years, would you be giddy to send your child to Iraq? I'd tell the government to go jump off a cliff! I'd hide my kids anywhere I could. I've said this before, who or what is your child worth dying for? To raise a child only to be sent off to die for a socialist country, for a communist president, for a people who have forgotten what freedom is? I don't get it.

There was no draft though, we sent a hired military to go do the fighting and dying for a government that didn't even find the conflict important enough to declare war. So important was Iraq, Korea, Vietnam, that we have sent about 100,000 kids to go and die for a country that didn't even have the bag to ask for a formal declaration of war!

Yah, Ron Paul is Evil alright. I don't know what he would have done under the same circumstances but I do know that he wouldn't have rushed in like a fool. I also feel strongly that when ATTACKED he will defend America.

Ron Paul, more like the founding fathers than any other candidate and hated for it. Where am I wrong about Ron Paul?

[timshufflin]

Unfortunately, America is not the Country that it was in the 1940's and 1950's. When we were attacked on December 7th, 1941, almost every American male wanted to sign up and go off to War. When we were attacked on September 11, 2001, many rushed to help, many stood in horror, not know what to do and still others blamed America for the attacks and went on their way without a second thought. Yes, there were men and women who immediately wanted to sign up and defend their Country. But they were far from the majority. The thinking has changed back to that of the early 20th Century. Protect ourselves and screw the rest of the World. In that time, the World was a much bigger place, with fewer people and well defined borders. America was prosperus and self sufficient. None of that is true today. The World is over crowded. Technology has brought us all together on an instant basis. Loyality to Country is no longer well defined, especially in America. We are not self sufficient and rely on the rest of the world for most of our goods. We could not afford a World War now.

So, when America was attacked September 11 2001 who should I have sent my kid to fight against? This very country declared war against NOBODY. The military we had at that time was all that was needed to fly a plane over afghanistan and bomb them into hell. We spent trillions of dollars to go and kill a muslim who wasn't even hiding in the place we were bombing. osama was hiding on our supposed allies dirt living the dream in a mansion. How would sending my kid to fight help this? How did others sending their kids to fight help this?

If the Russian Mafia, in New York, were to put out a hit on the Mexican president and set off a series of bombs blowing some Mexican city to hell what should Mexico do? What would we do? I can tell you that we might not even be willing to extradite the people who ordered the hits. Would Mexico declare war on us?

Think about that, it's what happened in Afghanistan, kind of