Home Defense Shotgun Thread

[Orlando]

Anyone else have a Shotgun for Home Defense? If so post some pics
Mines a Smith & Wesson 3000 12 ga, a retired State Police weapon. I also have a slug barrel for it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/Smith%20Wesson%203000/MVC-002S.jpg

[redheep]

I just bought a Saiga .410. It will be at the house when I get home. I want to put a scope mount and a Bushnell 1x red dot on it. I've been researching HD rounds and there's some good .410 options.

I would have gotten a 12 gauge, but I got a good deal on the .410 ($299) and I think a 12 gauge would overpower the wife.

[axemurderer]

Orland

Why does that S&W look so much like an 870?????????


Mike




Anyone else have a Shotgun for Home Defense? If so post some pics
Mines a Smith & Wesson 3000 12 ga, a retired State Police weapon. I also have a slug barrel for it
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/Smith%20Wesson%203000/MVC-002S.jpg

[Orlando]

???? Dont know

[redheep]

Smith & Wesson bought patents and tooling for a 12 ga. shotgun design from Noble Manufacturing Co. in 1972, and produced it as the Model 916, 916T, and 916A.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-26>[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson#cite_note-26)</SUP> The guns were plagued by a variety of quality issues, including a recall due to a safety issue with barrels rupturing.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-27>[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson#cite_note-27)</SUP> The 916 series was replaced by the Model 3000, based on an improved Remington 870 design and produced by Howa of Japan.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-28>[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson#cite_note-28)</SUP> However, Smith & Wesson exited the shotgun market in the late 1980s to return to their "core" market of handguns.


It's wikipedia, so I don't know how true it is, but it's not inconceivable to think that S&W copied Remington's design since it's the industry standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson#Shotguns

[timshufflin]

I have various guns scattered throughout the house. 9's, 20's, 12's, Mini-G's.

[Oh Mr. Wilson]

Geez Orlando, you must be reading my mind (it's scary eh?:-)

I was coming to post some questions, looking for advice on tactical shotgun add-ons. I'm not going to trample on your thread, I'll start another.

Your S&W does looks a lot like my Remington 870, I bought the Express Combo package years ago, came with the 20" slug and 28" bird barrels. Since I started hunting deer with a Contender pistol some years ago and retired the shotgun I turned it into a home defense gun. I had some work done on the slug barrel to take a lot of the kick out of it by having it ported and the forcing cone lengthen, then I installed a pistol grip, three round mag tube and smaller forend grip. The pistol grip is a cheap solid plastic type I picked up at a gun show, I wouldn't recommend those. I'm going to get the Hogue grip, I see I can get the grip and matching forend from Brownells (cheap at my price :-)
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=22745/Product/REMINGTON-MOSSBERG-TAMER-PISTOL-GRIP-FOREND

I don't have any pics of it, I'll have to get a couple and upload them.

I wonder if AM stocks and parts will fit your shotgun? Was the barrel you bought listed for the S&W only or also for the Rem 870?

[howie]

Remington 870 loaded with OO buckshot.

[Punch The Clown]

I have a Mossberg 500 12ga. loaded with "less than lethal" ammo for the first 3 rounds. I figure that
A-Less likely my wife will kill me.
B-Less likely I'll accidently shoot my neighbor Nick.

[Orlando]

Geez Orlando, you must be reading my mind (it's scary eh?:-)

I was coming to post some questions, looking for advice on tactical shotgun add-ons. I'm not going to trample on your thread, I'll start another.

Your S&W does looks a lot like my Remington 870, I bought the Express Combo package years ago, came with the 20" slug and 28" bird barrels. Since I started hunting deer with a Contender pistol some years ago and retired the shotgun I turned it into a home defense gun. I had some work done on the slug barrel to take a lot of the kick out of it by having it ported and the forcing cone lengthen, then I installed a pistol grip, three round mag tube and smaller forend grip. The pistol grip is a cheap solid plastic type I picked up at a gun show, I wouldn't recommend those. I'm going to get the Hogue grip, I see I can get the grip and matching forend from Brownells (cheap at my price :-)
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=22745/Product/REMINGTON-MOSSBERG-TAMER-PISTOL-GRIP-FOREND

I don't have any pics of it, I'll have to get a couple and upload them.

I wonder if AM stocks and parts will fit your shotgun? Was the barrel you bought listed for the S&W only or also for the Rem 870?

As I rememeber no parts are interchangeable, the barrel is marked S&W . I found a guy in Texas that does have a few parts for them. I actually bought the extended magazine from him for it

[mikebaker1129]

Remington 870 loaded but not one in the chamber. I have a little one around.

[Cal30M1]

Winchester 1897

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/012.jpg

[Orlando]

Now thats a looker Cal, I like

[mike9905]

I may be way off, but I seem to remember that the S&W pump was Remington inspired, made by Howa. But parts don't interchange. Anyone?

[BIG TWIN]

Let's See. H&K USP .45 in night stand. Keltec .380 with Crimson trace laser in Wifey's night stand. 870 with a full tube under the bed. Colt AR 15 in closet ready to roll. That's just the Master bedroom. I have more surprises scattered throughout the house. I suggest a phone call before you drop by.

[Orlando]

I may be way off, but I seem to remember that the S&W pump was Remington inspired, made by Howa. But parts don't interchange. Anyone?

Parts do not interchange

Found this:
Smith & Wesson bought patents and tooling for a 12 ga. shotgun design from Noble Manufacturing Co. in 1972, and produced it as the Model 916, 916T, and 916A. The guns were plagued by a variety of quality issues, including a recall due to a safety issue with barrels rupturing.The 916 series was discontinued, then later replaced by the Models 3000, based on an improved Remington 870 design, and 1000 intended to compete with the popular Remington Model 1100; both were produced by Howa of Japan. However, with the sale of the company to British Tomkins PLC, Smith & Wesson exited the shotgun market in the mid-'80s to return to their "core" market of handguns

[llurpirate]

Mossburg Mariner 590A, side saddle with 6 rounds, and stock cuff with additional 5. Gives me about 20 rounds of OO to rely on. Plus additonal 50 rounds in over the shoulder ammo carrier. Doesn't count various other goodies in the house and truck.

[Schriv]

I sold my Mossberg 590 MIL a couple of years ago. I had the USMC version with ghost ring sights,heat shields and bayonet lug.;)
Recently, I picked up a Mossberg model 88 to supplement the .45 commander i keep in the nightstand. The wife will take the 88 to the safe area and be on the line with 911 while the dog and I clear the house. 80 pounds of extremely territorial, pissed off Finnish Spitz should take care of most problems without my intervention. BUT, I'd be more than happy to shoot whatever is left after he gets done.

[melloman]

What is a Finnish Spitz - got a photo of your pup?

[Schriv]

A Finnish spitz is a sled dog. Here are a couple of pics taken in the summer when he isn't wearing his thick double layer fur coat. When he gets pissed it looks like a full body mohawk.
He is fiercely protective of his mommy and his house. Comes in very handy when door to door folks choose to ignore the no solicitation sign at the front door.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w248/kschriv/Four%20legged%20friends/Andy1.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w248/kschriv/Four%20legged%20friends/Andy21.jpg

[melloman]

He looks like a good boy. I bet that he is a sweetheart - look at the smile for the camera! I come across so many dogs at my job that I usually keep a stash of biscuits in my truck.

[Cal30M1]

He looks like a good boy. I bet that he is a sweetheart - look at the smile for the camera! I come across so many dogs at my job that I usually keep a stash of biscuits in my truck.

And peanut butter too? :D

[themeowman]

What do you guys prefer for optics? Red dot or reflex sights?
Tom

[Schriv]

For my home defense shotty, it's old school point and click.
I can't see much use for optics in an in-house situation. But if I ever decide to mount a rail on it, I'll use a Bushnell Holosight that used to sit on one of my M4's before it got pushed aside for an ACOG clone.

[Orlando]

Optics? No need for optics on a scattergun
Never aim a shotty, point and pull the trigger

[themeowman]

SCHRIV
Thanks for the input. Anyone else?
Tom

[Cal30M1]

It's a shotgun! Point and click man! Center mass with 00 buck and you WILL blow holes in him!

[HerkFE]

When I was living in the states I kept a Mossberg 500 in the closet. Nothing fancy about it. I could see how for some people the red dot might help them, but only if they practiced sort of snap shooting with it. I always felt that I'd be shooting across a 10 foot room or down a hallway, and as long as I knew what was behind the wall behind the intruder, I didn't really need to aim, just get it pointed in their general direction and squeeze off a shell. When I get back to the states, I won't do anything to that shotgun other than clean her up, take her to the range (and hopefully have enough time shoot her this time), and then put her where I can grab her if I need to protect my home, wife and child.