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KnickKnack
12-09-2011, 09:10 PM
Can anyone identifying the manufacturers of these? Sean need not reply. :p
Also if you can tell me about the front sights, I'd appreciate that. I'm trying to learn. Thanks!

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/074.jpg

The top one appears to be chromed (?) and the bottom one parked.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/075.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/076.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/077.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/078.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/079.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/080.jpg

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq242/fyrfytr13/Garands/081.jpg
LEAD POISON
12-09-2011, 10:24 PM
The gas tubes are ALL stainless steel.
They are not parkerizd,it won't absorb.
They are coated with something,(Tim will add to this)
What you have there is the finish wareing off the shiney one.
The other will look like that someday.
My 2 pennys
Prince Humperdink
12-09-2011, 10:31 PM
As My little Old Polish friend stated,They are stainless.They look to be SA wide base.WW2 wide base have punch marks or letters stamped on bayonet lug flat and/or ring flat.Post war lack number/letter stamps.
The Garand Guy
12-09-2011, 10:41 PM
The early gas cylinders were painted with the 40's equivalent of epoxy paint. Numbers were stamped on the rear ring to show what type of finish it had, to see how long it would last. The paint wore off quickly, which is why you see many of the early ones "shiny". Later on, they developed a chemical process to blacken the stainless steel, which we still use today.
musketjon
12-10-2011, 05:09 PM
The butt plates look to be standard old everyday SA's.
Jon
jak
12-10-2011, 06:53 PM
The front sight on the top gas cylinder should be a SA. The sight on the bottom GC, I'm leaning toward HRA. Maybe one of the other guys can answer that one.
KnickKnack
12-10-2011, 07:35 PM
Thanks Jon and JAK. The butt plates are pretty worn and I figured they were nothing special. Not even sure they are worth having reparked. I wasn't sure about the top sight, but the bottom one appears to be WRA. It has the wider "wings" and there is a punch mark where Babcock's book says there should be one for WRA.

I found the letter "N" on the stamped on the flat of the ring on the worn off finish gas cylinder. Also, they both attract a magnet, so it puzzles me that they are stainless steel?
Orlando
12-10-2011, 08:02 PM
Some stainless is magnetic. You will notice some Gas Cylinders attract a magnet and some dont
KnickKnack
12-10-2011, 10:08 PM
Some stainless is magnetic. You will notice some Gas Cylinders attract a magnet and some dont

Cool, I did not know that! Both of these attract a magnet, although the finish on one is much, much better than the other, so I think that is the "newer" one.