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milboltnut
01-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Anyone here have a park job with this color? With Pics.

Orlando
01-18-2012, 05:48 PM
You mean the Zinc?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/repark/Picture079.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/repark/MVC-002F.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Garandlover/repark/MVC-007F.jpg

milboltnut
01-18-2012, 06:16 PM
It's funny... the top and bottom pic is darker than the middle pic. But the top one resembles mine.

Orlando
01-18-2012, 06:24 PM
All the same rifle, its mostly the lighting but also the two bottom pics were taken 3-4 years ago and park was dry.
I have since rubbed grease into the park and I do think the color has change some since. The top pic was taken a few months ago

Cal30M1
01-18-2012, 06:41 PM
Here's my Mini-G when it was factory fresh from Germany! :D


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Good%20Wood%20Good%20Metal/015.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Good%20Wood%20Good%20Metal/011.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/Cal30M1/Good%20Wood%20Good%20Metal/008.jpg

Punch The Clown
01-18-2012, 07:27 PM
Here's my Mini-G when it was factory fresh from Germany! :D

Herr Werle does some beautiful work! What's his turn-around time?

melloman
01-18-2012, 07:52 PM
The next time I have one done I am going to give serious consideration to going with the zinc park.

canes7
01-18-2012, 08:05 PM
Last one I had done I asked Tim to do a 2-tone for me. The receiver and barrel were zinc, everything else (sights, bolt, clip latch..etc.) was done manganeese. It was beautiful. I'm thinking of sending in another for the same job.

Cal30M1
01-18-2012, 08:12 PM
7 days from my PO back to my door!

Herr Werle paid shipping both ways too!

Orlando
01-18-2012, 08:12 PM
Last one I had done I asked Tim to do a 2-tone for me. The receiver and barrel were zinc, everything else (sights, bolt, clip latch..etc.) was done manganeese. It was beautiful. I'm thinking of sending in another for the same job.

Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

dogboysdad
01-19-2012, 08:55 AM
Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

Maybe he could mix the zinc and manganese? Or, maybe swirl them together like a chocolate/vanilla soft-serve icecream cone on a hot summer day. That would be nice.

canes7
01-19-2012, 09:46 AM
Any pics, sounds interesting


Here ya go Orlando. Crappy pics taken with iPhone is all I have of this rifle.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff207/hurricanes7/54%20mil%20SA/garand2.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff207/hurricanes7/54%20mil%20SA/garand1.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff207/hurricanes7/54%20mil%20SA/garand3.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff207/hurricanes7/54%20mil%20SA/garand4.jpg

herrmann
01-19-2012, 10:02 AM
Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

I wonder what would happen if you mixed the two solutions?

timshufflin
01-19-2012, 10:40 AM
I wonder what would happen if you mixed the two solutions?

They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

herrmann
01-19-2012, 10:44 AM
They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

And here I thought you were the NOG man !

canes7
01-19-2012, 11:15 AM
They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

How dare you cater to only markets which you can profit from! I think the Obumunites shall sway public sentiment against you until the day you provide for the whims of all!

milboltnut
01-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I'd have to say, this is the nicest M-1 Garand NM rifle I have ever seen minus the red grease.

Orlando
01-19-2012, 04:05 PM
I would be up for something between the two colors. I'm just not a fan of the black

Canes,
That is a interesting contrast on your rifle

Eli
01-19-2012, 04:08 PM
Here ya go Orlando. Crappy pics taken with iPhone is all I have of this rifle.

I'd have to say, this is the nicest M-1 Garand NM rifle I have ever seen minus the red grease.
Wow! That looks GREAT!

Eli

Prince Humperdink
01-19-2012, 04:10 PM
would there be any benefit to mixing park solutions?Does Manganese wear differently than zinc,or rather,withstand wear better?Would mixing combine each's qualities and make an uber park?

Orlando
01-19-2012, 04:21 PM
would there be any benefit to mixing park solutions?Does Manganese wear differently than zinc,or rather,withstand wear better?Would mixing combine each's qualities and make an uber park?

I had some parts done by a guy and they turned out a darker grey. I cant remember know what type solution he said he used, but I really liked the color

timshufflin
01-19-2012, 04:27 PM
The two parks have different results on the salt water test. This means nothing to us because we aren't doing any beach landings.

wgandy
01-19-2012, 10:46 PM
Thanks Milboltnut for starting this thread. I've got an SA/IHC receiver that needs some loving. I was going to email Mr. Tim with the same question - does he have the abilility to park the receiver inbetween the light gray of zinc and the coal black of manganese.

Mr. Tim - How many of us would have to order the medium color before it would become economical for you to do it?

-wg

timshufflin
01-19-2012, 11:07 PM
Thanks Milboltnut for starting this thread. I've got an SA/IHC receiver that needs some loving. I was going to email Mr. Tim with the same question - does he have the abilility to park the receiver inbetween the light gray of zinc and the coal black of manganese.

Mr. Tim - How many of us would have to order the medium color before it would become economical for you to do it?

-wg


4 rifles per month, for 15 years.

wgandy
01-19-2012, 11:26 PM
Thanks Tim.....so I won't be holding my breath on that option......;)

The Garand Guy
01-20-2012, 02:56 PM
All phosphating comes out light or dark grey. If you cover it with green-colored grease, it will turn green. I once turned a freshly blued gas cylinder set green by putting green grease on it.

Winchester used Picric Acid on the metal before phosphating, which is why their finish came out so light. It probably turned green when packed in cosmoline.

Phosphate mix will yield a light grey color; whereas manganese will yield a darker grey-black color. There are pre-dips available that will come out black. The disadvantage of the light grey is that the parts will come out different shades, depending on the hardness of the metal; hard metal will come out light, & softer metal will come out dark.

If you mix the light grey phosphate with the darker manganese, you will get a medium grey.

KnickKnack
01-20-2012, 03:52 PM
What about the "green" WRA park? How was that acheived? Anyone know?

KnickKnack
01-20-2012, 03:55 PM
Dan, that 2 tone park is hot! :) What did you use in the lettering to get it to stand out?

canes7
01-20-2012, 05:06 PM
Dan, that 2 tone park is hot! :) What did you use in the lettering to get it to stand out?

China White marker. I bought them from eBay. They were 2 for $1 delivered. That was at least 6 years ago I got 'em, I've only used 10% of one.

HerkFE
01-20-2012, 11:32 PM
The two parks have different results on the salt water test. This means nothing to us because we aren't doing any beach landings.

Or are we?

timshufflin
01-21-2012, 08:58 AM
Or are we?


If you are, you live somewhere far from me.

HerkFE
01-21-2012, 09:03 AM
I'm not, but someone could be, I guess. It made more sense to me this morning.

And I AM just about as far away from you as anyone could get...

KnickKnack
01-21-2012, 09:42 AM
Or are we?

There is a really good chance that we are. I just saw a re-enactment of the D-Day landings on television, and it was held in Ohio on the shores of whatever that big lake is up there. Lots of beaches in the Great Lakes. :) I think they are all fresh water, though, so maybe the salt water test will only apply if we storm a beach on the coasts or the Gulf.

KnickKnack
01-21-2012, 09:43 AM
All phosphating comes out light or dark grey. If you cover it with green-colored grease, it will turn green. I once turned a freshly blued gas cylinder set green by putting green grease on it.

Winchester used Picric Acid on the metal before phosphating, which is why their finish came out so light. It probably turned green when packed in cosmoline.

Phosphate mix will yield a light grey color; whereas manganese will yield a darker grey-black color. There are pre-dips available that will come out black. The disadvantage of the light grey is that the parts will come out different shades, depending on the hardness of the metal; hard metal will come out light, & softer metal will come out dark.

If you mix the light grey phosphate with the darker manganese, you will get a medium grey.

I think you answered my question about how WRA parts turn green, even before I asked the question! :)

Punch The Clown
01-21-2012, 04:20 PM
Does Herr Wehrle do medium gray?

The Garand Guy
01-21-2012, 05:30 PM
I'm psychic.

melloman
01-21-2012, 08:11 PM
Uncle Timmy,
I have a Field Grade on the way from CMP - I would be interested in a medium grey park if you decide to make such a special color run available.

Orlando
01-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Uncle Timmy,
I have a Field Grade on the way - I would be interested in a medium grey park if you decide to make such a special color run available.

Well we have two people in line, anyone else??

Schriv
01-22-2012, 02:23 AM
I've got a couple that would look awesome in medium gray.

Orlando
01-22-2012, 09:13 AM
Maybe there is a demand for medium gray??

melloman
01-22-2012, 09:34 AM
Maybe if all interested parties chipped in we could "sweeten" the deal by throwing in a case of Nog.

timshufflin
01-22-2012, 10:51 AM
I am not the same Nog consumer I was. I usually run a 170 cholesterol. Just had physical right after Nog season. I averaged 1 qt of nog a day for 30 days and my cholesterol was 275! Going back for a recheck shortly to see if the Nog has drained from me.

Orlando
01-22-2012, 11:02 AM
Geeez man lay off the Nog!!!!

Rick B
01-22-2012, 11:21 AM
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2295/20120120121130.jpg

melloman
01-22-2012, 11:39 AM
Okay, okay. Half a case of nog and a bushel of some Kale or other dark leafy greens. Watch that cholesterol!

Punch The Clown
01-23-2012, 06:19 AM
Tim, I heard tell that iffin you place yo bare feet on the belly of a nekkid Mexican dog it'll drain the cholesterolol right out of the soles of yo feet into the belly of the dog. Or so I've been told.

dogboysdad
01-23-2012, 07:50 AM
Me thinks this post has been hijacked.