timshufflin
01-23-2012, 03:08 PM
I've been told about a gentleman on the CMP board who did business with me and had issue with his barrel length. The gentleman contracted for a project with a specific barrel length and other features. I know of this gentleman and he is an outstanding guy who, it seems, just has a different understanding of what barrel length is than I do.
Why do I measure my barrels from the receiver to the muzzle? Because the only ATF person that matters in my life is the ATF person who inspects my shop. That's it in a nutshell. I can argue with an agent till I'm blue in the face but I have to do what the agent in my shop asks me to do, or else.
The ATF rules manual is FULL of laws that are interpreted differently by individual agents. If you don't believe this, just get to googling. I am not going to bring up other specific instances where MY ATF agent has a different understanding of what a rule means because, in some cases, my agent's understanding benefits ME.
The bottom line is that the customer on that thread was very kind, polite and understanding of my situation even though I think that my customers understanding of the definition of barrel length is the correct one.
To go a step further, look at my web site and you'll see the same Mini-G drawing that I've had up since the site has been in existance. It shows the barrel length as measured from the face of the receiver.
By the way Lapriester, the Mini-G does not kick like a mule. I have no idea where you get some of your material at. I tell my customers flatly that I cannot even tell the difference in recoil from a standard Garand to a Mini-G. Yes I had a reproduction T37 deform during testing, so what? Call Bill Ricca and ask him how many reproduction T37's deform during shooting STANDARD Garand's. You will find that the number is just about ALL of them. They are junk repro's and eventually, almost all turn inside out.
The concept that some people have is that anything that malfunctions on a Non-Standard Garand MUST be because it's a non-Standard Garand. This is just wrong! Look at the pages of the CMP forum, they are LITTERED with people who are having problems with STANDARD GARANDs. John Garand did a pretty good job but I can think of at least three things I can do better to improve his design. I'll bet the rest of you can too.
Good Grief.
Why do I measure my barrels from the receiver to the muzzle? Because the only ATF person that matters in my life is the ATF person who inspects my shop. That's it in a nutshell. I can argue with an agent till I'm blue in the face but I have to do what the agent in my shop asks me to do, or else.
The ATF rules manual is FULL of laws that are interpreted differently by individual agents. If you don't believe this, just get to googling. I am not going to bring up other specific instances where MY ATF agent has a different understanding of what a rule means because, in some cases, my agent's understanding benefits ME.
The bottom line is that the customer on that thread was very kind, polite and understanding of my situation even though I think that my customers understanding of the definition of barrel length is the correct one.
To go a step further, look at my web site and you'll see the same Mini-G drawing that I've had up since the site has been in existance. It shows the barrel length as measured from the face of the receiver.
By the way Lapriester, the Mini-G does not kick like a mule. I have no idea where you get some of your material at. I tell my customers flatly that I cannot even tell the difference in recoil from a standard Garand to a Mini-G. Yes I had a reproduction T37 deform during testing, so what? Call Bill Ricca and ask him how many reproduction T37's deform during shooting STANDARD Garand's. You will find that the number is just about ALL of them. They are junk repro's and eventually, almost all turn inside out.
The concept that some people have is that anything that malfunctions on a Non-Standard Garand MUST be because it's a non-Standard Garand. This is just wrong! Look at the pages of the CMP forum, they are LITTERED with people who are having problems with STANDARD GARANDs. John Garand did a pretty good job but I can think of at least three things I can do better to improve his design. I'll bet the rest of you can too.
Good Grief.