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buckshot85
02-16-2012, 07:21 PM
me again with another question. anyone try different breaks to see which one works the best with the least amount of blast. i was gonna order the one from Standard Parts along with their gas cylinder, but, it just doesn't have that "COOL LOOK" to it. but, if it works o.k., without major blast, then i can handle the look. thanks guys.

buckshot85
02-16-2012, 08:09 PM
Are there other breaks that have the same thread or that will work with the gas cylinder that I want to use? i should say that I have a new Criterion barrel that I want to use for my Mini-G conversion. I'll pay the extra money for using my barrel.

timshufflin
02-16-2012, 08:12 PM
With the drop down gas cylinder you can use any brake for the BM59

For the standard Garand, you have the Smith Garand brake and the T37

Any other brake requires special barrel sizing and threading that I don't do. My muzzles are just about exactly USGI OD of .510. If you can find a brake that can make use of that OD and get someone to cut the threads, you are in.

buckshot85
02-16-2012, 08:17 PM
you will have to shorten and rethread my barrel for the BM59 though, correct?

timshufflin
02-16-2012, 08:19 PM
Barrels have to be shortened to do a BM59 and the thread for the lock is one which fits ALL BM type brakes. There is no lock, at least I've only seen a very few homemade ones, that works on the 59 so that a brake could be added separately on the end.

buckshot85
02-16-2012, 08:28 PM
well, o.k., so bottom line is, i want one of your Mini-Gs with the drop down gas system using my Criterion barrel with Standard Parts BM 59 new production gas cylinder and lock/break. NIW 77 series op-rod. Enbloc fed. Dupage laminate stock. Ultimak mount. Is this all cool and is there anything here Tim that would cost above what your conversion price is?

mikebaker1129
02-16-2012, 08:39 PM
There are BM59 gas locks out there that were used BM59 detachable parachute muzzle breaks.
I will post a pic when I get some time.
Mike

mikebaker1129
02-16-2012, 08:50 PM
http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz203/mikebaker1129/th_BM59gaslocks001.jpg (http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz203/mikebaker1129/?action=view&current=BM59gaslocks001.jpg)Here we go.
The pics are from left to right :
BM59 detachable paratrooper gas lock,BM59 detachable paratrooper gas lock modified to fit the M1 Garand,Prototype gas lock that is very similar to the other 2 but I am unsure what it fits,silencer maybee.
Last is the paratrooper muzzlebreak that twist on and off of the above gas locks.
http://i828.photobucket.com/albums/zz203/mikebaker1129/th_BM59gaslocks002.jpg (http://s828.photobucket.com/albums/zz203/mikebaker1129/?action=view&current=BM59gaslocks002.jpg)

buckshot85
02-16-2012, 09:01 PM
thanks for the pics Mike. i'm still trying to figure out what i need for parts before i send anything to Shuffs.

mikebaker1129
02-16-2012, 09:22 PM
I understand . Glad to see you over here .

buckshot85
02-16-2012, 09:27 PM
i see a few familiar names here. anymore advice Mike on my project?

mikebaker1129
02-16-2012, 10:49 PM
1st step is to decide if you want a short break or a long one?
As far as short breaks there is the faux BM62 break,the Standard parts break(same as 62 except it has holes),5" long BM59 break .
Long breaks are the BM59 tricomp and the paratrooper detachable break (Somewhat rare), these do reduce recoil,but add a huge amount of length.
I would most likely go with the standard parts short break or the 5" BM59.

Rush2112
02-17-2012, 04:39 PM
I would most likely go with the standard parts short break or the 5" BM59.

The 5" brake functions very well.
Got the shorter one, but haven't played w/ it yet.











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Punch The Clown
02-17-2012, 05:54 PM
The ones that Standard Parts sells resemble the BM59E brake except made for the drop-down gas cylinder. That would be my choice. You also have to remember that by design you can replace the BM brakes in about 2 seconds so you're really not locked into any one design.

buckshot85
02-17-2012, 06:07 PM
hey PtC. whats your opinion on the Mini with the drop down? what do you think as far as the drop down over the USGI? is it just personal preference that dictates choice over the actual function?

Punch The Clown
02-17-2012, 10:00 PM
I shot both over at Tim's house and they both functioned fine. Tim bends the op rods perfectly.

buckshot85
02-17-2012, 10:07 PM
just talked with Greg at Standard Parts and ordered the new production BM59 gas cylinder and brake. hopefully Tim won't have any trouble putting this on the Criterion barrel i will send up with the rest of the parts. thanks PtC.

Orlando
02-18-2012, 08:39 AM
I shot both over at Tim's house and they both functioned fine. Tim bends the op rods perfectly.

Stu
Hows your project coming along???

Punch The Clown
02-18-2012, 04:32 PM
Stu
Hows your project coming along???

Orlando, I have all the parts except the barrel. How you doin?

Orlando
02-18-2012, 05:34 PM
Everything but the biggest part $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :)

buckshot85
02-24-2012, 09:30 PM
well, i'm getting closer. only thing left is the op-rod, barrel and the stock. all of which are coming. then i have to get the most important thing, at least maybe to Tim, the cash. got a good start though. getting anxious. have not decided yet on what type of optic to use, red dot or scope. i should probably figure out what i will use the rifle for the most. i do know that i need a Mini-G. that much is for sure. any more pics from you guys of yours????

grumpyoldretiredcop
02-25-2012, 06:55 PM
Rather than clutter the thread with my less-than-professional photos, they're on Photobucket at this link (http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/grumpyoldretiredcop/Mini-G/).

Rush2112
02-26-2012, 02:26 AM
Rather than clutter the thread with my less-than-professional photos......
me like gun pron $clapper$

grumpyoldretiredcop
02-26-2012, 02:51 AM
me like gun pron $clapper$

Thank you sir!

buckshot85
02-26-2012, 08:47 AM
Rather than clutter the thread with my less-than-professional photos, they're on Photobucket at this link (http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/grumpyoldretiredcop/Mini-G/).

where did you get the cylinder lock from? haven't seen a solid one. is that a 5" machined down? nice rifle!

grumpyoldretiredcop
02-26-2012, 04:35 PM
where did you get the cylinder lock from? haven't seen a solid one. is that a 5" machined down? nice rifle!

Thanks! You are right on the money - it's a demilled Beretta tricompensator milled down. I'd like to have the tricomp on my rifle, but here in the People's Republik of Kalifornia, it would then be considered an assault weapon due to the grenade launching feature.

Eli
02-26-2012, 05:42 PM
Thanks! You are right on the money - it's a demilled Beretta tricompensator milled down. I'd like to have the tricomp on my rifle, but here in the People's Republik of Kalifornia, it would then be considered an assault weapon due to the grenade launching feature.

The 5" (lug under lock) lacks grenade launching capability.

Eli

grumpyoldretiredcop
02-26-2012, 06:47 PM
Shows you what I know about tricomps. The one I shortened came from this Gunbroker auction (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=262252511) and was a tricompensator with grenade launching capability. The photo below is the "before". I thought all the tricomps did, but certainly don't mind being educated as I have a long-range plan to build a BM-59 - I just have to escape the PRK first or find one of the 5" lug under lock versions.


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mikebaker1129
03-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Very nice !
Who did the work on the demilled brake if you don't mind me asking ?

grumpyoldretiredcop
03-02-2012, 04:30 AM
I cut it down and milled it flat, I'm pretty sure that Tim cleaned it up more as it didn't look that good when I sent it to him.