Limits for inventory not yet advertised... "just in case"

[cuppednlocked]

It's started again, but this time it's for "surplus ammo"...

Is everyone in the country turning into a whining baby about limits and "fairness"???

http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=544741&postcount=15

[herrmann]

Yes.

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[canes7]

I wonder how everyone would feel about limiting all CMP purchases to those who actually participate in true marksmanship programs? That is what the CMP is all about, right? I'm a bit sick of the limit speeches really. Between the guy that wanted the near-correct Winchester for his grandpa, the 1st time buyer line jumpers and the limit guys I don't hold a very high regard for these CMP customers.

WTF would these guys do if you had to actually participate to purchase? WAHH WAHHH WAHHH WAAHHH NOT FAIR.. NOT FAIR.. WAHH WAHHH WAHH I DEMAND!!!!! WAHH WAHH WAHHH

[paid4c4]

Pass the koolaid please.
Bill

[timshufflin]

My opinion of limiteers is of very low regard unless it's a private company who just wants to do it for a marketing gimmick or other reason that suits them. When I sell a rifle I sell enblocs for $1 each with a limit of 10. I do that because I want my buyers to have enblocs but I don't want to have to restock due to one buyer who wants 5000 of them.

Those who ask for limits are always trying to benefit themselves and only themselves. They want someone else to warehouse and finance the goods that they cannot afford to buy now for a chance to buy those goods later when they MIGHT be able to afford them. When I was in grade school we called these "people" sissys. Now I just call them democrats.

[Francis]

.......... When I was in grade school we called these "people" sissys. Now I just call them democrats.

Agreed, some people can't let go fo the fact that this isn't the old DCM paid for by the G'vmt. But last I checked you can still get a rifle.......Get over it already!

Oh and if they did limit it, we'd be like the DCM, one rifle for life. What fun is that?

[cuppednlocked]

How about the "poor college student" who practically begged for someone to give him some enblocs?

I don't have the link but shit like that really pisses me off. If you want some enblocs that bad save some damn change and buy one or two... They aren't that friggin expensive!

[canes7]

Gimme Gimmme Gimme Gimme....... That's all those folks know.

[cuppednlocked]

http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=69745

[timshufflin]

How about the "poor college student" who practically begged for someone to give him some enblocs?

I don't have the link but shit like that really pisses me off. If you want some enblocs that bad save some damn change and buy one or two... They aren't that friggin expensive!


If he's actually paying for his college, NO federal or state aid, I'd give him 20. If he's getting state or federal aid, he's not a college student, he's a welfare recipient.

[cuppednlocked]

Not me, he's looking for a hand out. IF he was paying for college 100% out of pocket he either would have more respect for himself than to ask for a hand out OR have enough money from "mommy & daddy" that he could also buy more enblocs than he could ever use...

[canes7]

How can someone who can afford an M1 and ammo not be able to afford en bloc clips?

It reminds me of the guy I knew that bought a BMW but couldn't afford to get the oil changed.

[Orlando]

How can someone who can afford an M1 and ammo not be able to afford en bloc clips?

It reminds me of the guy I knew that bought a BMW but couldn't afford to get the oil changed.

Same thing I though when I read his post the otherday. I almost commented so on CMP but had restraint

[Orlando]

If he's actually paying for his college, NO federal or state aid, I'd give him 20. If he's getting state or federal aid, he's not a college student, he's a welfare recipient.

My daughter is a poor college student, has college loans which she will repay , living on her own,working a fulltime job making a whopping $13.50 a hour, going to school at night and online and eeking by. If she wanted enblocs I'm sure she would scrape up a few bucks for them and would hope she wouldnt beg for the

[timshufflin]

My daughter is a poor college student, has college loans which she will repay , living on her own,working a fulltime job making a whopping $13.50 a hour, going to school at night and online and eeking by. If she wanted enblocs I'm sure she would scrape up a few bucks for them and would hope she wouldnt beg for the


Oh I agree, if someone actually asked me for them, I'd not respect them. If such a student did not ask but needed, I'd probably give them to them. People from the ages of 18-30 are the poorest Americans in the country while those 55 and up are the wealthiest. Still, as a society we have no qualms giving a senior discount to the guy who just drove up in his new Buick to play 18 holes while we ask full price from the Ramen noodle eating kid.

I was in fast food for 21 years, I saw every single day how the elderly drove up in their shiny Lincolns, Cadillacs, Buicks, Grand Marquis, and wanted a free cup of coffee by virtue of simply being old and collecting the money of the poor kid going to college. Taco Bell, in the corporate stores, finally got rid of the "senior discount" on or about 1994. Many stores still give it but they are breaking corporate policy. Freebies for old people are fine, freebies for kids are frowned upon.

[Orlando]

. People from the ages of 18-30 are the poorest Americans in the country while those 55 and up are the wealthiest. .

Heck Ya, three more years and my ship is comin in!!!!!!!!:)

[Orlando]

The "poor college student" that could'nt afford enblocs just posted about a M14 Stock that he just got
Wonder if he whined and got that at a discount?
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=69838

[seaninmich]

I find it funny that the same people that spent the last 3 years screaming AGAINST rationing health care are always screaming FOR rationing ammo, guns, etc when they can benefit from it. It is rather pathetic to see people who claim to be conservatives turn out to just be more hypocritical liberals.

[cuppednlocked]

I think discounts for the elderly are fine and should be avoided for youth. Simple reason is that the older generation has already learned how life works. If you start someone on the handout they will only know the handout.

Perhaps I mis-read his plea to find enblocs. Maybe he was just adding a little adjective so others would know who is really is. I wonder what "poor" really means to him? Is it a restrictive budget that prevents him from partying on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday?

[canes7]

If Taco Bell, or any other business, wants to give discounts it's their decision, not ours. Asking for discounts or handouts is just plain douchebaggery.

[seaninmich]

how about discounts for NO ONE! why in hell should anyone pay less because of the year in which they were born? Old people are the last ones that should get a discount. If they haven't managed to save enough by then to pay for what they want, then too f-ing bad.

[Francis]

I don't get the panic, there are rifles for sale still, and ammo to buy. Who cares if the CMP runs out, the free market will still have M1 Garands and Ammo available.

The CMP customers that go on the forum and petition for rationing and price scheduling are the same people that have gotten America is the poop sandwhich were in right now.


But here is why college students are really broke and need a handout:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/contraception-controversy-continues-meet-witness-sandra-fluke/

Birth control costs are killing them!:p

[cuppednlocked]

If Taco Bell, or any other business, wants to give discounts it's their decision, not ours. Asking for discounts or handouts is just plain douchebaggery.

+ 1 gazillion

[Francis]

Come on, college students at Georgetown are going broke trying to keep up with all the thumping they have to endure, the least you can do is give em' some enblocks!

[canes7]

Come on, college students at Georgetown are going broke trying to keep up with all the humping they have to endure, the least you can do is give em' some enblocks!

She does not need contraception. No one would fornicate with that flea-bag female canine anyway.

[Skeet6]

http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=546104&postcount=18
Following Dep... I tried.
Mike B

[timshufflin]

Communist of the year award,


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In the short term I agree that's true, but long term, after the 22 rifles are all gone, which they are, and after the 22 sights are all gone, which they're about to be, and after the ___(fill in the blank) are all gone, it'll be about people. Their participation and support is what will count. IMO it's best, to not only make a profit, but to also invest in the people who either currently do or who will support the program, other than by CMP purchases.

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Trust me, I support limits. I am speaking about the reality of the situation. CMP funds it's marksmanship activities via sales. The sales are not the goal, paying for the activities is.

I like limits because it gives me (as a collector) a decent chance to get an item. I also like that the CMP will always have people willing to support their cause by purchasing their wares. It is not a black or white POV.

By the by, I found a temporary (Unknown if it will support sling use to carry the 40X) replacement for the handstop nut:
Home Depot carries a "Speed Nut" which is basically a shaped piece of flat spring-like metal.
Speed Nut
SMS-Flat #14
Plain Steel
BG-P/47-P

It is holding my new/old handstop nicely. Had to attach it with the rail removed from the stock, then just screw the rail back in place.

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[timshufflin]

I think discounts for the elderly are fine and should be avoided for youth. Simple reason is that the older generation has already learned how life works. If you start someone on the handout they will only know the handout.

Perhaps I mis-read his plea to find enblocs. Maybe he was just adding a little adjective so others would know who is really is. I wonder what "poor" really means to him? Is it a restrictive budget that prevents him from partying on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday?


Tell me you're kidding please. By virtue of being a certain age you would support someone getting a discount? I could agree if the discount were based on some objective situation, but age? To give the wealthiest Americans discounts just because they are the oldest? If I ever give a discount, it will be for rational reasons. My clientele is prototypical, above 40 for the most part. I would want to draw a missing clientele and would consider discounts for those under 30.

[cuppednlocked]

Not kidding at all.

From a business standpoint I would find a way to get people to spend money with me. If the older generation has the most money why would I not try and get them in my "store"? If it takes a free cup of coffee or some other discount so be it. If the youth have less expendible income how much effort should I put in to try and get the one dollar they may have to spend once in a blue moon?

It's no different than tipping a server well and getting better service the next time you visit the restaurant. As a restaurant worker myself back in the day, when I waited tables you can bet I knew who my regulars were and took care of them. As FOH manager I made sure the waitstaff were taking care of our bread and butter customers. Sometimes I would comp an app or something to show my appreciation. Not one of those regulars were young. I did not care that they had the most money to spend. I was not concerned about getting the "current" dollar out of their pocket but rather the "next".

ETA: Don't you think there is a reason your business draws from the over 40 demographic?

[timshufflin]

Not kidding at all.

From a business standpoint I would find a way to get people to spend money with me. If the older generation has the most money why would I not try and get them in my "store"? If it takes a free cup of coffee or some other discount so be it. If the youth have less expendible income how much effort should I put in to try and get the one dollar they may have to spend once in a blue moon?

It's no different than tipping a server well and getting better service the next time you visit the restaurant. As a restaurant worker myself back in the day, when I waited tables you can bet I knew who my regulars were and took care of them. As FOH manager I made sure the waitstaff were taking care of our bread and butter customers. Sometimes I would comp an app or something to show my appreciation. Not one of those regulars were young. I did not care that they had the most money to spend. I was not concerned about getting the "current" dollar out of their pocket but rather the "next".

ETA: Don't you think there is a reason your business draws from the over 40 demographic?

Okay, I see the reasoning behind your statement and now I get that you're not being emotional but business savvy. I know the reason behind my business clientele's age, if you already have an age group who brings you business, the goal is to get what you don't have. Again, if I was to attack my business model really thoroughly, I would go after the younger audience and get that market share. Why I don't do that is because I've chosen a business model that is not conducive to hiring more people. If I can't handle the extra business, you charge no one a different rate and let the chips fall where they may.

[Francis]

CMP doesn't seem to need to creat incentives for people to buy rifles.

These CMP threads are a direct representation of the selfishness of our devolving culture.

Me, me, me, me, me, me.

"As a collector"?

Just buy an M1 and shut your face dirt bag$auto$

[canes7]

O has said many times that the mission of CMP sales is to sell out as fast as he can while generating the most money. To that end, limits hamper sales. It has to bug the crap out of O to create limits.

[canes7]

Just read this....

http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=546162&postcount=23

So now the Nazis were not socialists? What the hell are these kids being taught?

[jak]

Okay, I see the reasoning behind your statement and now I get that you're not being emotional but business savvy. I know the reason behind my business clientele's age, if you already have an age group who brings you business, the goal is to get what you don't have. Again, if I was to attack my business model really thoroughly, I would go after the younger audience and get that market share.

I understand from the business point that you would offer discounts to new customers to get their business.
I understand from the "new" customer end that I might try your services because of the discount.
If I were an existing customer and was not offered the same discount I would be upset. I would get the impression that the business
had the attitude of " I got your business already, why should I do anything extra to keep you as a customer"

[timshufflin]

I understand from the business point that you would offer discounts to new customers to get their business.
I understand from the "new" customer end that I might try your services because of the discount.
If I were an existing customer and was not offered the same discount I would be upset. I would get the impression that the business
had the attitude of " I got your business already, why should I do anything extra to keep you as a customer"


EXACTLY, this is why I have not offered discounts. Nobody really wins, you WILL offend someone by offering the discount.

[Francis]

Just read this....

http://forums.thecmp.org/showpost.php?p=546162&postcount=23

So now the Nazis were not socialists? What the hell are these kids being taught?


That would undermine the adgenda to turn America into Ameritopia the socialist utopia.

They are being taught that everything should be free and no actions have consiquences.

[Francis]

EXACTLY, this is why I have not offered discounts. Nobody really wins, you WILL offend someone by offering the discount.

And why should I buy donuts for paid employees if I go to the store and spend my hard earned money on an M1?

[canes7]

That would undermine the adgenda to turn America into Ameritopia the socialist utopia.

They are being taught that everything should be free and no actions have consiquences.

I PM'ed the guy about it.. nicely. What I got back was kool-aid drinking drivel.

[Francis]

I PM'ed the guy about it.. nicely. What I got back was kool-aid drinking drivel.

I'm sure that was an enlightening conversation $swords$

Capitalism has everything to do with it unless you revert back to the DCM. It's how they raise money for the shooting programs, and that money is called profit.

[Punch The Clown]

She does not need contraception. No one would fornicate with that flea-bag female canine anyway.

I would do her and go 50/50 on the contraception costs.

[musketjon]

[WTF would these guys do if you had to actually participate to purchase? WAHH WAHHH WAHHH WAAHHH NOT FAIR.. NOT FAIR.. WAHH WAHHH WAHH I DEMAND!!!!! WAHH WAHH WAHHH ]

You mean like what I had to do back in the 80's to get my "one per lifetime" M1 rifle??
Jon