Your government and union employees photo's here

[timshufflin]

Dedicated to my heroes!
We make fun of Walmart patrons all the time, I don't really like it because I do shop at Walmart. I have to, I'm just an average Joe. I'd much rather make fun of government employees, if you have a photo to add, here's the spot.



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My absolute favorite LOL! This guy thinks taxpayers actually care if he is employed, I hope he was fired on Christmas.
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[Rick B]

Really sound like a Liberal Tim. I am sick of seeing you hit Unions as a whole when there are many that are good. Unions make it so you do not get Mexican immigrant wages and make those not in one get pissed as you do. And as in almost everything anymore they do not go after the people running the unions screwing it up they hit all union workers. Very sad. Rick B

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[Rick B]

One other thing. The Government has jumped out of the Pension plan that I have paid into fully in order to use it as a political pawn. I have given them over $100,000 of my money to do as they please. They have spent it and now stand there saying you the public have to pay for it and this isn't right. Give me a break, they ruined it just as they are the Medical now but you go after the doctors also instead of the health care system that the Government opted out of also. Who is the real problem? Rick B

[timshufflin]

Rick, I sound like a liberal????????:confused:

Before I can respond to your post I first have to dismiss your inferred definition of the word "liberal". I would recommend a few reads for you so that you can better understand the definition of the word "liberal". The reads I have for you are not to blast you but to DEFEND me. I am NO liberal LOL. In fact, I am what every definition of the words describes as the polar opposite.
Describing what a liberal is;
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
2. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_liberal_and_a_con servative
3. http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b131981.html
4. A neat read on classic versus modern liberalism http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2006/03/what-is-liberalism.html

Now, defining a conservative;
1. An author and staunch conservative Russell Kirk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kirk
2. The authors masterpiece, The Conservative Mind http://www.amazon.com/The-Conservative-Mind-Burke-Eliot/dp/1433255065
3. Milton Friedman's book, co authored by one of my professors at Northwood Timothy Nash, When we are free http://www.amazon.com/When-We-Are-Free/dp/0873590546

Once we get my proper label in place, I am a conservative as radical as the founding fathers, I'm happy to argue your points on the merits of federal employees and union employees.

I can tell you now though that if you think the positives you've listed as "union" ideals are really positives, it will be a long road to hoe. The Federal social security plan and forced benefits extorted from free men are hardly founding father or conservative ideals. These are the ideals of lIBERALS.

[toolman]

One other thing. The Government has jumped out of the Pension plan that I have paid into fully in order to use it as a political pawn. I have given them over $100,000 of my money to do as they please. They have spent it and now stand there saying you the public have to pay for it and this isn't right. Give me a break, they ruined it just as they are the Medical now but you go after the doctors also instead of the health care system that the Government opted out of also. Who is the real problem? Rick B


LMAO!!! You paid into a pension PLAN! LMAo

I am self employeed, In the last 3 years i have paid in TAXES over $450,000.!!!! Whether it be state, local, or porperty taxes. I would like to buy a new truck this year!!! But i dont because i need to save for the unknow future!! But every Fing cop and firefighter in town has a NEW dodge Charger they take home everynight!! That i bought for them! And you want to talk about penisons. In the united states 47% of the empolyed peeps have a goverment job. 53% have a job that is either self,manufacture,or non-goverment employed! NO TIME in our history of the united states has these numbers been so close! Toolman

[toolman]

Then these ass wipes want to tell me i need to provide health care for all my empolyees!! When they have lived off my taxes that i have paid every fing year year!

And on another note!! Teachers Wanting a CBA!! As the great Ronald reagan,said NO goverment employee has the right to go on strike !! When they are getting paid by the tax payer!!

[Punch The Clown]

Labor unions do a lot of good for the environment. Look how much better the rust belt looks since they shut down industry in America..

[howie]

I'm union. My wife is union. My truck is an '03. My wife's car is an '01. I haven't seen a raise in three years. She hasn't seen one in seven. Not bitching. Just stating facts.

[canes7]

You fucktards think you really know something about government work. How many of you have actually worked in government?

[Punch The Clown]

The City Council just gave the people that clean the urinals and bathrooms in the city a huge raise. Bloomberg vetoed it but the council says they will over-ride the veto. The liberal democratic controlled council is sucking up to labor, getting ready for the next election. Anyway, if this goes through the guy cleaning the bathrooms at my station will be earning more than I do. Here's a clip from the Daily News.

"The prevailing wage measure would raise pay for hundreds of service workers at some 41 buildings that receive city tax breaks. The salary bump would be determined by the city Comptroller’s prevailing-wage scale.

Repairmen and cleaners at major office buildings whose pay is now governed under that scale earn $24.74 per hour, or roughly $50,000 a year. Workers covered under the bill would get a pay increase of 35% to 45%, Council officials said.

Bloomberg said he understood why unions and labor advocates were pressing for the legislation.

“Their job is to increase the salaries and benefits of their members whether by negotiation, arbitration, or legislation,” he said. “But it’s government’s job to stand up for taxpayers – and for job seekers. And that leaves me no choice but to veto these bills.”

Supporters of the legislation slammed the veto."

Except for-change that to despite- bloomberg's anti-gun and elitist attitude he is probably the best mayor this city ever had.

[toolman]

You fucktards think you really know something about government work. How many of you have actually worked in government?


Hmm never had to belittle myself! But my brother is street commissoner of one of the largest county in colorado(75 guys). Cousin is a supervisor a crane naval center,in charge of (150 guys). best friend county comissoner of our local county!! All three Same, local and federal goverments are the biggest spenders. WASTE money like it water!! Cousin travels to DC once a month. He absolituly hates it! Guess what he is sitting things up to start his on business and leave the FING goverment!!

[toolman]

You fucktards think you really know something about government work. How many of you have actually worked in government?

OH let me guess you work for the guberment!!!

[Punch The Clown]

I work for the Govt. and believe it or not I really do things. On the other hand, I feel that labor is killing or already has killed this country. To lump Govt. workers and labor unions together is insulting to me. The funny thing about labor is that the people with the lowest levels of skillsets and education seem to command the highest salaries, and somehow always seem to have management by the short hairs. There is a bridge crossing the Hudson that is in need of replacement. Gov. Cuomo got labor to agree to a salary cut to over $3000.00 weekly in order for construction to start. New york city was the largest port in the world until the ILA made it so expensive to load and offload ships that shipping is all but non-existent here. The UAW killed all the upstate plants. A parasite has to learn how much blood it can suck before killing the host.

[Orlando]

My wife has been a School Custodian for 34 years, worked like a dog, cleaning up after snot nosed kids and giving them a hug and a pep talk when they needed it. She cut the grass, shoveled snow, cleaned up vomit and feces kids would purposly smear on floors etc
When I first met her she would have to go to the old School building and hand shovel coal into the feeders on the boilers on weekends so the pipes wouldnt freeze
She has foot problems from being on the concrete floors all those years and is worn out from it
Next year she will retire at 54 years old with 35 years service with a pension she paid into. More power to her she deserves it

[ordmm]

You fucktards think you really know something about government work. How many of you have actually worked in government?

I have. So I guess I USED to be a "fucktard", so by your standard I guess I'm allowed to comment. By the way,,,,this is so typical of my union experience. Instead of coming up with a civil discussion it's name calling and usually a shout down from union idealists. It's the only way they know.

Anyway....10 years AFSME. 5 years IAM (machinests union, Chicago)

Before that, 10 years airlines, half the time non-union in a right to work state.

Before the airlines, the automotive industry. Supervision, or better described as a punching bag for the UAW.

Anyway.

When a non government enterprise is union, or non-union and they make bad decisions, or are stupid, or allow their company to be manipulated they go out of business. Someone else comes along, and if there is profit to be made, they step in, usually don't foul up like the company before them, and succeed in business. And while that is going on the people who work for that company usually enjoy solid employment. So I guess jungle law triumphs, the fit survive.

Now there are exceptions of course, but those are usually companies that are propped up by gov't subsidies (which really is being propped up by our money). Ultimately they fail and go away.

But now there is Government. They can fail in their mission. The school systems are a real good example.
Their people make big mistakes but where I was at that usually led to being promoted as they did'nt want to draw attention to the foul up, but did'nt want it to happen again.


Most of the time, in my opinion, the employee base represents some kind of great social experiment. IN MY EXPERIENCE lots of people who are basically unemployable are given a paycheck. Government employment is
an Oz like land of everyone is equal and deserves a chance and a paycheck even if they are totally useless. But these government jobs don't go away. There is no competition. There usually is no measure of efficiancy. It just goes on and on. Best way to validate things is I guess by using Franklin Roosevelt. The ultimate liberal. He felt that government employees SHOULD NOT be unionized.

Oh yeah, after ten years I decided I wasted ten years. I simply could not be part of the joke anymore.

That's the honest to God's truth.

[seaninmich]

I am sick of seeing you hit Unions as a whole when there are many that are good.



I think you're being sarcastic, but can't be sure.

Unions are the epitome of liberal socialism. No intelligent argument could possibly be made against that.

[canes7]

I have. So I guess I USED to be a "fucktard", so by your standard I guess I'm allowed to comment. By the way,,,,this is so typical of my union experience. Instead of coming up with a civil discussion it's name calling and usually a shout down from union idealists. It's the only way they know.

Anyway....10 years AFSME. 5 years IAM (machinests union, Chicago)

Before that, 10 years airlines, half the time non-union in a right to work state.

Before the airlines, the automotive industry. Supervision, or better described as a punching bag for the UAW.

Anyway.

When a non government enterprise is union, or non-union and they make bad decisions, or are stupid, or allow their company to be manipulated they go out of business. Someone else comes along, and if there is profit to be made, they step in, usually don't foul up like the company before them, and succeed in business. And while that is going on the people who work for that company usually enjoy solid employment. So I guess jungle law triumphs, the fit survive.

Now there are exceptions of course, but those are usually companies that are propped up by gov't subsidies (which really is being propped up by our money). Ultimately they fail and go away.

But now there is Government. They can fail in their mission. The school systems are a real good example.
Their people make big mistakes but where I was at that usually led to being promoted as they did'nt want to draw attention to the foul up, but did'nt want it to happen again.


Most of the time, in my opinion, the employee base represents some kind of great social experiment. IN MY EXPERIENCE lots of people who are basically unemployable are given a paycheck. Government employment is
an Oz like land of everyone is equal and deserves a chance and a paycheck even if they are totally useless. But these government jobs don't go away. There is no competition. There usually is no measure of efficiancy. It just goes on and on. Best way to validate things is I guess by using Franklin Roosevelt. The ultimate liberal. He felt that government employees SHOULD NOT be unionized.

Oh yeah, after ten years I decided I wasted ten years. I simply could not be part of the joke anymore.

That's the honest to God's truth.

So you think I was defending .gov unions? What I see is a whole buch of .gov worker bashing and I know not all of you know what the hell you are talking about. As said before to lump the .gov & union workers all together is just plain wrong. All this belittleing of "heros" and so on is just plain ignorant.

I work in state governement. We have no money to waste. So you are still going to call me a leech?

[toolman]

Define hero????????????????? OMG That is all you see anymore. Firefighters,cops,parmedics!!! Running around town with thier bumper stickers on thier car or truck saying, im your hero!!!!!!!!!!! If they want to be a hero DONT take PAY!! Oh wait..

They took that job for the income to support thier family!! A hero is someone who does something wanting nothing in return! They took that occupation for the income to support thier family!!

DO WE NEED COPS,FIREFIGHTERS,TEACHERS!!!! 10000%%% YES!! DONT cry how dangerous it is YOU choose that job!!

WE HAVE EVERYTHING SO FING SCREWED UP IN THIS COUNTRY!! A HERO IS A dad who takes his son fishing,hunting this weekend. A mother who teaches her daughter took cook,or clean house to raise a family!

Mom,Dad teaching thier childern to be good stewards with money ,Not to be a burden on soceity!!! A Hero is someone helping a neighbor or friend who has hit a hard time in thier live. Whether it be sickness or financial needs! Susan, my wife and I just gave a large portion of money to a friend whose hubsand is dieing of cancer.Leaving 2 small childern behind. 6 months to live! We gave the money in a envelope with NO return address! they have know clue who it came from! That is being a hero Seating a standard for our childern!! I WILL PICK WHO MY HEROS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peace TOOLMAN

[Rick B]

Toolman you better get your understanding of what a Hero is. I guess by your definition a service man is not a hero since he is paid to do it. This whole thing disgust me on how there is a division from those who are no no union to those who are. I could sit and write as many instances of those not in the union being selfish pricks also if not more. I have been refraining from commenting as I see it does no good and am surprised at the serious attacks on fellow collectors. I am a full blown conservative and have a Union job. It pay's for me to live but if my wife didn't have a great job in the private sector or I didn't have a second job I wouldn't survive.

Totally disgusted and going to take a break from the forums as I do not want to get any more upset over the Liberal way, yes Tim I said it again as the same kind behavior as Liberals use is being used now. I just do not want to look at the folks I thought were pretty descent in their views seem to be exactly like the other side that most of us cannot stand. Rick B

http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+hero&qpvt=hero+definition&FORM=DTPDIA

remarkably brave person: somebody who commits an act of remarkable bravery or who has shown an admirable quality such as great courage or strength of character
"a war hero"
2.
somebody admired: somebody who is admired for outstanding qualities or achievements
"heroes of the war against poverty"
3.
arts main character in fictional plot: the principal male character in a movie, novel, or play, especially one who plays a vital role in plot development or around whom the plot is structured
See also antihero
4.
mythology man with superhuman powers: in classical mythology, a man, especially the son of a god and a mortal, who is famous for possessing some extraordinary gift such as superhuman strength
"the Greek heroes"
5.
food long sandwich: a sandwich made from a long roll or loaf of bread with a filling of meat and cheese with lettuce and tomato

[ordmm]

Well I guess some day I'll learn not to post my views on the internet. But since I'm a slow learner will continue to embarrass myself.

But that being said, I make no apologies as I have a right to state my views and accept the consequences for doing so.
That being said,,,,,WTF..."serious attacks on fellow collectors"???

So, do we have to share a common political belief to collect Garand rifles? Can a conservative be excluded? How about a Democrat? If I don't go to your chuch will you not barrel a rifle for me?


Rick,,,,,,,,You take this as a personal attack. It is not. My comments were on the BUSINESS MODEL of the government agency I worked for. My comments were based on MY EXPERIENCE and so stated. My comments were about SOME of the losers I worked with, and others I have had the misfortune to cross paths with. And I'm sure some viewed my the same way. I posted because I felt it was being stated that ONLY A Government employee was qualified to comment.
I feel that the government agency I worked for was inefficient and the way it was run was based on a flawed business model. I made a comment about the school system,,,I also feel it's a failed business model. If you want to dispute that it's OK with me. Where I live less than 60% graduate high school.



But I will ask this question of government workers.....and in most cases those who work in union trades with tight union involvement...and the question is...

Do 100% of the people equally share 100% of the work? Or, is it, more like 25% of the people do the work, while 75% or so just follow along in the vacuum? And for you uber Union supporters...Do you only emply the Union trades to do work for you? Or if your a union trade person, do you ever do work on the side "off the books"? Be honest now.

If you want to paint me as a conservative zealot, go ahead. It may or not be true. I'm really not sure about the zealot thing. If you don't like what I say don't read it.
But.....At least respect our right to state our beliefs.

On the term "Hero". No, I don't think everyone in the miltary is a hero. By applying that term to all diminishes the true meaning of it. I also don't think all firemen, cops, and whoever are heros either.

If you require us to assign the term hero to anyone in the military, then would not the soldier who went nuts at Ft Hood and killed a bunch of GI's have to be considered a hero? He was military, and he was in uniform.
Or do we have to do it with some type of qualification? You can be a hero while in uniform,,,,but when you
take the uniform off you are no longer a hero? Whoops, sorry, we got to take that Medal Of Honor back now....since your not in the miltary anymore you can't keep it.
I'll stick with a hero being a unique trait. A product of some extraordanary event. Something a person does, and act of pure unselfish valor that makes that person differant and unique from the rest of us. In this society it does not seem to be fashionable to distinguish anyone who excels. If you make a bazillion dollars based on the skills you have but others don't....you evil.. If you have 50 kids in a class, or on a team, it not nice just to recognize one or two who excell above all others.

What are we becoming in this country anyway?

Anyway, not going to say I'm sorry if I pissed anyone off. Because I'm not.

Greg

[seaninmich]

I guess by your definition a service man is not a hero


correct. nor are teachers, firemen, or policemen heroes simply because of their job title.

[Punch The Clown]

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In the words of the late Civil Rights Activist and Hero


Why Can't We All Just Get Along?

[ordmm]

OK Stu,,,time to change the subject.....LMAO

Here's my hero and last words on this topic.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9d6ebGJIXw

[Punch The Clown]

Greg, I am a big Christie fan. Believe it or not on the other side of the river Cuomo isn't doing that terribly either-considering what he has to work with.

[tljames]

Define hero????????????????? OMG That is all you see anymore. Firefighters,cops,parmedics!!! Running around town with thier bumper stickers on thier car or truck saying, im your hero!!!!!!!!!!! If they want to be a hero DONT take PAY!! Oh wait..

They took that job for the income to support thier family!! A hero is someone who does something wanting nothing in return! They took that occupation for the income to support thier family!!

DO WE NEED COPS,FIREFIGHTERS,TEACHERS!!!! 10000%%% YES!! DONT cry how dangerous it is YOU choose that job!!

WE HAVE EVERYTHING SO FING SCREWED UP IN THIS COUNTRY!! A HERO IS A dad who takes his son fishing,hunting this weekend. A mother who teaches her daughter took cook,or clean house to raise a family!

Mom,Dad teaching thier childern to be good stewards with money ,Not to be a burden on soceity!!! A Hero is someone helping a neighbor or friend who has hit a hard time in thier live. Whether it be sickness or financial needs! Susan, my wife and I just gave a large portion of money to a friend whose hubsand is dieing of cancer.Leaving 2 small childern behind. 6 months to live! We gave the money in a envelope with NO return address! they have know clue who it came from! That is being a hero Seating a standard for our childern!! I WILL PICK WHO MY HEROS ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peace TOOLMAN

WoW, 'lil testy there aren't we! I happen to love my job! I was a volunteer for 4 years prior to being offered a "Career" spot. Is my job dangerous......sometimes, but then so is driving down the highway. Do I drive a City / Government Vechicle, if your house is on fire or you're having a massive heart attack yes. Do I belong to a Union.....nope, nor do I care too. I like helping people who are in need of help, am I a hero? I don't think so, but my kids seem to, in fact we talk about such things while hunting or fishing or when we just hang out. My son thought enough of it to follow in my footsteps and also become a FireFighter / Paramedic. Am I a hero? I don't think so, but I do feel pride when someone on the street stops me and shakes my hand because I cut their 16 y/o son out of a mangled piece of metal and tended his injuries while transporting him to the ER, or when a 'lil elderly woman brings cookies and icecream to the station and with tears in her eyes says thankyou for responding so quickly during my husband's heart attack. So you know what, I'm a Gubnent Employee and while I don't always agree with the "powers that be" I will remain one. Not because of status, not because of pay ( 'cause in Western Ok trash truck drivers make more than FF/Paramedics), but because even if YOU DON'T LIKE ME. There may come a time when YOU have a problem just a 'lil too big for you to handle, and I'll be there! Cause I love to help you when you can't help yourself! Trust me I've heard it all

"well our Fire Department never lost a foundation", or "yea that guy died with Paramedic assistance!" and while it stings I realize it's only folks who've never been in my shoes and since I'm not in their's I really don't understand how they feel or veiw the world!

and just for grins and giggles I might add..........."don't feel bad, we can't all be heros. Afterall if we were there would be no one to stand on the sidewalk and wave as we pass by!"

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Sincerely and Respectfully Thomas L. James FF/Paramedic Shift Captain

"and just another DAMN Gubnent EMPLOYEE!" :)

[ordmm]

WoW, 'lil testy there aren't we! I happen to love my job! I was a volunteer for 4 years prior to being offered a "Career" spot. Is my job dangerous......sometimes, but then so is driving down the highway. Do I drive a City / Government Vechicle, if your house is on fire or you're having a massive heart attack yes. Do I belong to a Union.....nope, nor do I care too. I like helping people who are in need of help, am I a hero? I don't think so, but my kids seem to, in fact we talk about such things while hunting or fishing or when we just hang out. My son thought enough of it to follow in my footsteps and also become a FireFighter / Paramedic. Am I a hero? I don't think so, but I do feel pride when someone on the street stops me and shakes my hand because I cut their 16 y/o son out of a mangled piece of metal and tended his injuries while transporting him to the ER, or when a 'lil elderly woman brings cookies and icecream to the station and with tears in her eyes says thankyou for responding so quickly during my husband's heart attack. So you know what, I'm a Gubnent Employee and while I don't always agree with the "powers that be" I will remain one. Not because of status, not because of pay ( 'cause in Western Ok trash truck drivers make more than FF/Paramedics), but because even if YOU DON'T LIKE ME. There may come a time when YOU have a problem just a 'lil too big for you to handle, and I'll be there! Cause I love to help you when you can't help yourself! Trust me I've heard it all

"well our Fire Department never lost a foundation", or "yea that guy died with Paramedic assistance!" and while it stings I realize it's only folks who've never been in my shoes and since I'm not in their's I really don't understand how they feel or veiw the world!

and just for grins and giggles I might add..........."don't feel bad, we can't all be heros. Afterall if we were there would be no one to stand on the sidewalk and wave as we pass by!"

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Sincerely and Respectfully Thomas L. James FF/Paramedic Shift Captain

"and just another DAMN Gubnent EMPLOYEE!" :)


Hell...I would have a bad attitude also if someone made me wear that damn "Sparky The Fire Dog" outfit! BASTARDS!

Easy....Just a joke.

For the record,,,I know of what you speak....My dad was a FF for 35 years (back in he old days before general use of a mask), by brother 23 years, my sister-in-law 23 years. I've heard all the jokes. Been around alot of FF and around alot of station houses. By the way,,,dispite the all the crap the old man breathed in....he made it to 92 years of age! The krauts did'nt manage to kil him in WW2, the arsonists and "left the bacon on the stove" did'nt get him, the big meals at the station house did'nt get him. Just father time, an enemy to all of us, got him. He was a cool dude, never complained.

Greg

[tljames]

Yep, "rookies" get to play Sparky! Been there done that, 'cept my first year of Fire Prevention was spent as "Sniffy" the Smoke Detector. LoL

Good Luck All and Good Shooting!.........................just lets not shoot at one another ;)

[cuppednlocked]

Anyone has the potential to be a hero... it's all in how you choose to act and what you do after the fact.

[tljames]

Ya know, this thread didn't start out being about HEROS. My closing comment about heros was just me being a PIA. My take on heros is simply this. Everyone's definition is different, each of us see those around us from a different angle, my hero is my dad! Did he single handedly slay one thousand of the enemy during WWII? No. Did he save even one living soul from a horrible fire, wreck or natural disaster? No. So what makes him a hero? He was MY dad! The things he did are too numerous to list. What he didn't do , was beat my mother, lay around drunk or stoned. Raise two sons on welfare or sponge off every other working man in America. He instilled principles into me and my sibling that we live by and those same principles we attempted to pass onto our children. Some people thought my dad an A$$H0!E. Trust me he had potential :) Yet there is no one living or dead that I look / looked up to more, and I'm far from being the man he was, yet I hope someday I can be!

Now as for Gubnent workers, I understand people's distaste for them. I get what Timmah is saying and I don't have enough informaton to really defend them as a whole. Yet I know how I vote, I know what I believe and on more than one occasion I've chosen to vote for what I saw best for our country and not for my group. I doubt I'm the ONLY Gubnent worker who does so, but then again I don't know.

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So here's a picture of another Gubnent worker..............yep just hanging around spending tax dollars! :o

Good Luck and Good Shooting All! Thomas a.k.a. The Hoser!

[tljames]

* somewhere in Michigan*

Ok guys smile and say..........SHUFFLINNNNNNN!
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:D

[timshufflin]

Anyone has the potential to be a hero... it's all in how you choose to act and what you do after the fact.


Actually, no. In this day and age the GIANT marketing train of both federal and local governments has made it a requirement that you be a government employee to be a "hero". I am so offended by this marketing that it is stuck in my crawl.

-government employment positions should be made made as a last resort and not for a jobs program.
-government employee creation should be done with the utmost in care, anyone care to guess when the last time the federal government shrank its numbers of employees? Obama has added 180,000 hero's in the last three years!
-government employment should not be called "servant" or "in the service", we all know that it us in the private sector that are stuck doing the serving and paying for these employment positions. Policemen telling free people how we should talk to them, elected officials wanting exceptions on how the rule of law applies to them, the pyramid is upside down.

Right now my definition of a "Hero" is any poor slob doing the working, paying, and slaving to pay for all these government employment positions. These poor slobs have got to be damn tired and wondering how in times like these the federal government could add 180,000 positions to its payroll.

On a sidebar, I really can't stomach a union position of any sort. The entire philosophy of a man who wants a job, telling another man who created the job what he will pay them and give them as benefits, is beyond my possible belief abilities.

My beef with government employees is really aimed at federal employees though, some exceptions, as my federal government has created these positions almost entirely against the US Constitution created by the Founders.

By the way, these are NOT liberal beliefs, these ARE conservative beliefs and I would challenge anyone who works for the federal government, save the military, how the Founding Fathers would justify their jobs existence. On a local level, smaller government is ALWAYS better. Police and "teachers" are a must but the rest is really up for debate.

[timshufflin]

* somewhere in Michigan*

Ok guys smile and say..........SHUFFLINNNNNNN!
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii272/ECFD09/firemen_quit.jpg (http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii272/ECFD09/?action=view&current=firemen_quit.jpg)
:D


Some guys just like that, did a bang up job putting out a fire in Michigan's Upper Peninsula recently. I would like to whole heartedly thank these "heroes" for keeping the Duck Lake fire contained between the Two Hearted River on one side, the Tahquamenon River on the other side and Lake Superior to the North. I don't think the fire went for than a half a mile outside the river boundaries and didn't burn one inch of water in Lake Superior! Only 65 homes and one business were lost, every single home and business in the fire area. To go into the mistakes of how this fire was allowed to burn on the first day would be an online abortion. Whatever though, "heroes" just the same!

[tljames]

Darn, Timmah it was just a joke :( I still loves ya! smoooochesss

[timshufflin]

Darn, Timmah it was just a joke :( I still loves ya! smoooochesss


I loves you too baby,


Do government employees have this song at the ready whenever they go to work, cruise about town, go on a call?


http://youtu.be/koJlIGDImiU

[axemurderer]

In case you guys ain't heard. Scranton PA just cut all thier public employees to minimun wage. The city can't afford the price anymore.

[seaninmich]

In case you guys ain't heard. Scranton PA just cut all thier public employees to minimun wage. The city can't afford the price anymore.



not all. it was only about 400 workers -

[timshufflin]

In case you guys ain't heard. Scranton PA just cut all thier public employees to minimun wage. The city can't afford the price anymore.


See now, that's none of my business and I really don't generally care about what OTHER city's do with their public employees. I do know that I don't want ANY public employees in my city.

The issue of federal public employees is far different. They have to go, ALL of them except those provided for by the U.S. Constitution. The ones that are left cannot be unionized.

[toolman]

actually, no. In this day and age the giant marketing train of both federal and local governments has made it a requirement that you be a government employee to be a "hero". I am so offended by this marketing that it is stuck in my crawl.

-government employment positions should be made made as a last resort and not for a jobs program.
-government employee creation should be done with the utmost in care, anyone care to guess when the last time the federal government shrank its numbers of employees? Obama has added 180,000 hero's in the last three years!
-government employment should not be called "servant" or "in the service", we all know that it us in the private sector that are stuck doing the serving and paying for these employment positions. Policemen telling free people how we should talk to them, elected officials wanting exceptions on how the rule of law applies to them, the pyramid is upside down.

Right now my definition of a "hero" is any poor slob doing the working, paying, and slaving to pay for all these government employment positions. These poor slobs have got to be damn tired and wondering how in times like these the federal government could add 180,000 positions to its payroll.

On a sidebar, i really can't stomach a union position of any sort. The entire philosophy of a man who wants a job, telling another man who created the job what he will pay them and give them as benefits, is beyond my possible belief abilities.

My beef with government employees is really aimed at federal employees though, some exceptions, as my federal government has created these positions almost entirely against the us constitution created by the founders.

By the way, these are not liberal beliefs, these are conservative beliefs and i would challenge anyone who works for the federal government, save the military, how the founding fathers would justify their jobs existence. On a local level, smaller government is always better. Police and "teachers" are a must but the rest is really up for debate.

yal,,,, what he said!!!!

[cuppednlocked]

I still stand by my statement.

Any given day the random guy walking down the street has the ability to to something extraordinary. The ball is in his court for the next step. Does he run to the media, or does he continue his life out of the limelight? To me, a hero stays out of the spotlight. If he is thrust into the limelight he does his best to get out of it quickly. I guess I'm old fashioned in that the hero never reveals his true identity.

Is "hero" overused? Absolutely, but don't think for a minute that regular Joe's can't step up to the plate and deserve the title.

[tljames]

GAWD I hate it that I'm Pubic (is that spelled right?) enemy number 1!

Yet government or otherwise I LOVE my job! So here I sit. Here's a diddy for ya.

{NOTE} THE FOLLOWING IS PURE DEE BS!

Just thought it entertaining, given the topic!

DISCOVER WHO YOUR HERO IS TODAY!




This is fun. I promise you WILL laugh when you discover your HERO
NO CHEATING. I was really surprised to find out who my HERO was.

FIND OUT WHO TRULY IS YOUR HERO DON'T SCROLL DOWN YET, DO THE
SIMPLE
MATH BELOW, THEN SCROLL DOWN TO FIND YOUR HERO.

It's CRAZY how accurate this is!
No peeking!

(1) Pick your favorite number between 1-9

(2) Multiply by 3 then

(3) Add 3

(4) Then again Multiply by 3 (I'll wait while you get the calculator....)

(5) You'll get a 2 or 3 digit number....

(6) Add the digits together


Now Scroll down .................

With that number, see who your HERO is from the list below:
1. Einstein
2. Oprah Winfrey
3. George w. Bush
4. Bill Clinton
5. Bill Gates
6. Gandhi
7. Ronald Reagan
8. Babe Ruth
9. Thomas James
10. John F. Kennedy

I know, I know....I just have that effect on people. One day, you too
can be like me.

Stop picking different numbers!! I AM YOUR HERO, JUST DEAL WITH IT !!!!
HEHEHEHEHEHEHE! Thomas

[timshufflin]

GAWD I hate it that I'm Pubic (is that spelled right?) enemy number 1!

Yet government or otherwise I LOVE my job! So here I sit. Here's a diddy for ya.

{NOTE} THE FOLLOWING IS PURE DEE BS!

Just thought it entertaining, given the topic!

DISCOVER WHO YOUR HERO IS TODAY!




This is fun. I promise you WILL laugh when you discover your HERO
NO CHEATING. I was really surprised to find out who my HERO was.

FIND OUT WHO TRULY IS YOUR HERO DON'T SCROLL DOWN YET, DO THE
SIMPLE
MATH BELOW, THEN SCROLL DOWN TO FIND YOUR HERO.

It's CRAZY how accurate this is!
No peeking!

(1) Pick your favorite number between 1-9

(2) Multiply by 3 then

(3) Add 3

(4) Then again Multiply by 3 (I'll wait while you get the calculator....)

(5) You'll get a 2 or 3 digit number....

(6) Add the digits together


Now Scroll down .................

With that number, see who your HERO is from the list below:
1. Einstein
2. Oprah Winfrey
3. George w. Bush
4. Bill Clinton
5. Bill Gates
6. Gandhi
7. Ronald Reagan
8. Babe Ruth
9. Thomas James
10. John F. Kennedy

I know, I know....I just have that effect on people. One day, you too
can be like me.

Stop picking different numbers!! I AM YOUR HERO, JUST DEAL WITH IT !!!!
HEHEHEHEHEHEHE! Thomas

Oddly, that list had 6 out of 10 people who have been employed by a government. So, whomever made that list was even inclined to believe that you have a 60% chance of believing a government employee to be a hero over the people who pay the unreasonable salary, health care, and benefits, of government employees. The government bias continues.

[Fogtripper]

Really sound like a Liberal Tim. I am sick of seeing you hit Unions as a whole when there are many that are good. Unions make it so you do not get Mexican immigrant wages and make those not in one get pissed as you do. And as in almost everything anymore they do not go after the people running the unions screwing it up they hit all union workers. Very sad. Rick B

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9169/union2.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6486/union1s.jpg


This.

Unions are responsible for so many great things in this country. Social Security, Obama Care, Medicare, The New Deal, all these things were done because of us. Making things equal for everyone is what we stand for and promise to deliver to all our brothers and sisters. To attack us is a terrible shame.

[cwcdl79]

"Unions are responsible for so many great things in this country. Social Security, Obama Care, Medicare, The New Deal, all these things were done because of us. Making things equal for everyone is what we stand for and promise to deliver to all our brothers and sisters. To attack us is a terrible shame. " these are good things???

[Big Ben]

My wife has been a School Custodian for 34 years, worked like a dog, cleaning up after snot nosed kids and giving them a hug and a pep talk when they needed it. She cut the grass, shoveled snow, cleaned up vomit and feces kids would purposly smear on floors etc
When I first met her she would have to go to the old School building and hand shovel coal into the feeders on the boilers on weekends so the pipes wouldnt freeze
She has foot problems from being on the concrete floors all those years and is worn out from it
Next year she will retire at 54 years old with 35 years service with a pension she paid into. More power to her she deserves it

Brother O, I feel her pain.

[Erj]

"Unions are responsible for so many great things in this country. Social Security, Obama Care, Medicare, The New Deal, all these things were done because of us. Making things equal for everyone is what we stand for and promise to deliver to all our brothers and sisters. To attack us is a terrible shame. " these are good things???

I was hoping for an 'irony alert'. Didn't see one though... That's a concern.