Favorite Deceased liberal. Who Is Your Personal Fave?

[Punch The Clown]

Who is your personal fave and why? You can also tell who you would like to see on the list but please specify that they are not deceased yet-eg. "Jimmy Carter but he is still alive as of right now as far as I know". Please don't post JoeJoeWasHere on your "Future Inductees List". Feel free to elaborate on their crimes against society.

[dpd3672]

C'mon, Ted Kennedy is a shoo in. Murderer, hypocrite, fat, obnoxious, spoiled rich kid sexual predator. He had zero redeeming qualities.

And he was so liberal, he made his brother JFK look like Rush Limbaugh.

[LEAD POISON]

C'mon, Ted Kennedy is a shoo in. Murderer, hypocrite, fat, obnoxious, spoiled rich kid sexual predator. He had zero redeeming qualities.

And he was so liberal, he made his brother JFK look like Rush Limbaugh.

The whole PHUQEN family should have been ABORTED.

[seaninmich]

C'mon, Ted Kennedy is a shoo in. Murderer, hypocrite, fat, obnoxious, spoiled rich kid sexual predator. He had zero redeeming qualities.

And he was so liberal, he made his brother JFK look like Rush Limbaugh.


Yep. And don't forget that DEAD TED DAY is August 25. start planning your parties now! I do a special dance and ^$#% off to his obit every hour on the hour

[canes7]

Wow... good reads so far!

[Prince Humperdink]

If Liberace was a liberal,then He would have to be My favorite dead liberal.I think it would be fun to take Him to a tea party hosted by Charles Manson and Morton Downey Jr.

[jak]

All dead liberals are my favorite dead liberals because they can't screw things up anymore, but right now Ted Kennedy is #1 favorite

[REHRIFLE]

Yep. ... $#%^ off to his obit every hour on the hour

Impressive!

[timshufflin]

I would like to nominate john roberts as my lib dead pool candidate. May the bone cancer take it slowly and without hesitation. I cannot think of any lib currently alive that I could possibly despise more. john roberts is the worst kind of liberal, one that hides its true colors until it can do the most damage. john roberts now earns the former jane fonda moniker of communist, traitor bitch.

[Punch The Clown]

I would like to nominate john roberts as my lib dead pool candidate. May the bone cancer take it slowly and without hesitation. I cannot think of any lib currently alive that I could possibly despise more. john roberts is the worst kind of liberal, one that hides its true colors until it can do the most damage. john roberts now earns the former jane fonda moniker of communist, traitor bitch.

I think ruth bader ginsberg is going to the happy hunting grounds before him. Another chance for bho to plant a young leftist to the Court.

[timshufflin]

I think ruth bader ginsberg is going to the happy hunting grounds before him. Another chance for bho to plant a young leftist to the Court.


If, and it is a big IF, romney gets in the white house, I hope to God that he puts all openly conservative justices in the court. Heck obama did it.

[timshufflin]

I wouldn't mind putting this thing on the list. It was almost completely responsible for stealing our money for the hero's of 911, the folks who were kind of doing their job.

Clip 1, so wonderful, listen to people savage the wein


http://youtu.be/UeM_6DHHg4U

[Punch The Clown]

He is arrogant.

[timshufflin]

Clip 2 shows it on a rampage against anyone who would protect your tax dollars from it. It is all bent because employees who freely "served" were now injured doing what they signed up as "serving" for. Forget the fireman who was injured attending some regular plant fire, these here fireman, uh... hero's, are special.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4zwCMf8dsc&feature=player_embedded

[KnickKnack]

He is arrogant.

He is that. But then, so is Governor Christie. Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out who is who and which side they are on.

[KnickKnack]

Teddy Kennedy was a hands down winner in this Poll for Number 1. That was too easy. I guess we should all pick number 2 now. Unfortunately, all of my other picks are still alive and spreading their Liberal poo everywhere.

[timshufflin]

A couple more nominations for the dead pool and death by bone cancer

Lee Saunders is the President of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, AFL-CIO, which represents 1.6 million members. He was elected at the union’s 40th International Convention in June 2012.


Bob King was elected UAW president on June 16, 2010, by delegates at the UAW's 35th Constitutional Convention in Detroit. King, who is known for his activism and passionate beliefs in social and economic justice, served three terms as a UAW vice president. In his last term as vice president, he directed the Ford, Severstal, and Competitive Shops/Independents, Parts and Suppliers (IPS) departments.

James P. Hoffa has been on a mission—to build the Teamsters Union into the strongest, most powerful voice in North America for working families—and he is well on his way to achieving this goal. Under Hoffa’s leadership, the Teamsters Union is winning industry-leading contracts, engaging in vigorous contract enforcement and organizing the unorganized. Teamster positions on the issues of the day—from unsafe Mexican trucks to misguided trade policies—now hold sway in Washington’s power corridors. Hoffa has spent a lifetime preparing for the challenge of running the Teamsters Union. He knows, first-hand, what Teamsters can accomplish when they are united. He is leading a Union that is a credit to its proud history. Hoffa is recognized as one of the foremost authorities on Union issues. As the most visible and outspoken critic of government trade policies and anti-worker corporate agendas, Hoffa is recognized as a leader on issues that affect working people.


RANDI WEINGARTEN is president of the 1.5 million-member American Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO, which represents teachers; paraprofessionals and school-related personnel; higher education faculty and staff; nurses and other healthcare professionals; local, state and federal employees; and early childhood educators. She was elected in July 2008, following 11 years of service as an AFT vice president. She is an active member of the Democratic National Committee and numerous professional, civic and philanthropic organizations.

[toolman]

I would like to nominate john roberts as my lib dead pool candidate. May the bone cancer take it slowly and without hesitation. I cannot think of any lib currently alive that I could possibly despise more. john roberts is the worst kind of liberal, one that hides its true colors until it can do the most damage. john roberts now earns the former jane fonda moniker of communist, traitor bitch.

TRUer words have never been spoken!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! Peace Toolman

[Punch The Clown]

He is that. But then, so is Governor Christie. Sometimes I have a hard time figuring out who is who and which side they are on.

But I like Christie.

[KnickKnack]

But I like Christie.

I used to like Christie too. Until I saw more of him and realized that he was being just as arrogant as the Libs, like Chuck Shumer, Raum Emanuel, etc., just on the other side of the aisle. Put two arrogant people with opposite views in the same room and all that will come of it is that each one thinks that the other is a pompous ass. They are both correct, but nothing will be accomplished.

[timshufflin]

I used to like Christie too. Until I saw more of him and realized that he was being just as arrogant as the Libs, like Chuck Shumer, Raum Emanuel, etc., just on the other side of the aisle. Put two arrogant people with opposite views in the same room and all that will come of it is that each one thinks that the other is a pompous ass. They are both correct, but nothing will be accomplished.


Uhm, but what if I don't want anything "accomplished". If my government "accomplishes" much of anything else, it's over. If "accomplish" means repealing just about every law since 1864, I'm in. Other than that, I would quit prefer no more "accomplishments" ever.

[Punch The Clown]

Uhm, but what if I don't want anything "accomplished". If my government "accomplishes" much of anything else, it's over. If "accomplish" means repealing just about every law since 1864, I'm in. Other than that, I would quit prefer no more "accomplishments" ever.

Show me a politician that didn't sponsor 1 single bill and he's got my vote, Republican or democrat. You have to see the newpapers over here. They rate politicians on how many bills they sponsored? And, none of them, of course, would be favorable to me. All they do is cost me money and infringe. So, I guess in order of importance

1-A politician that votes to repeal existing nonsensical legislation.
2-A politician that only introduces legislation that would limit existing legislation.
3-A politician that doesn't introduce, sponsor, or vote on anything.
4-A no-show politician.
5-A politician with herpes, The Virus, genital warts, terminal acne, bad breath, ear wax, Hanson's Disease, chronic diarrhea, gonhorrhea.
99-A liberal.

[timshufflin]

Show me a politician that didn't sponsor 1 single bill and he's got my vote, Republican or democrat. You have to see the newpapers over here. They rate politicians on how many bills they sponsored? And, none of them, of course, would be favorable to me. All they do is cost me money and infringe. So, I guess in order of importance

1-A politician that votes to repeal existing nonsensical legislation.
2-A politician that only introduces legislation that would limit existing legislation.
3-A politician that doesn't introduce, sponsor, or vote on anything.
4-A no-show politician.
5-A politician with herpes, The Virus, genital warts, terminal acne, bad breath, ear wax, Hanson's Disease, chronic diarrhea, gonhorrhea.
99-A liberal.


Wow, I'm in total agreement. Wanting a politician to "accomplish" something is like hoping your cancer progresses. If you get your wish, you die.

[KnickKnack]

Punch, I agree with number 1 on your list and that has always been my first choice. However, like it or not, there are certain things that Government must do to function and those are the things that elected Politiicians should focus on, after they "clean house" and take out the trash. They could easily accomplish what needs to be done by meeting for 2 weeks a year, at their own expense, with no salary or benefits. Politics should not be a "Business" but rather a "Service". If this was done, you'd get a much better pool of Leaders. I'd also would add to your list anyone who would vote to eliminate useless agencies such as the EPA and TSA. Any agency not eliminated should be stripped of all regulation powers and not be allowed to detain, arrest or fine citizens for violations of any regulations they enacted.

[timshufflin]

Punch, I agree with number 1 on your list and that has always been my first choice. However, like it or not, there are certain things that Government must do to function and those are the things that elected Politiicians should focus on, after they "clean house" and take out the trash. They could easily accomplish what needs to be done by meeting for 2 weeks a year, at their own expense, with no salary or benefits. Politics should not be a "Business" but rather a "Service". If this was done, you'd get a much better pool of Leaders. I'd also would add to your list anyone who would vote to eliminate useless agencies such as the EPA and TSA. Any agency not eliminated should be stripped of all regulation powers and not be allowed to detain, arrest or fine citizens for violations of any regulations they enacted.


Really KK, exactly what functions does my FEDERAL government have to deal with in order to function? I count about three things, maintaining the military, judicial review of laws to assure they do not conflict with the U.S. Constitution, and maintaining a budget to do the first two things. Number 4 would be to stay the heck out of my way.

[KnickKnack]

Maintaining a budget would require a meeting once a year to agree on the taxation for the budget and actually drawing up a budget. In order to collect the taxes, we need tax collectors. So I go with Military, Tax Collection, maintaining laws in accordance to the Constitution and maintaining the Eisenhower Interstate system for commerce and miliary transportation when needed. I also go with increasing the Border Patrol and letting them do their job, along with revamping Immigration and Naturalization to be sure that we are sending the illegals back to where they came from, at their expense. I'm sure that I can think of a couple of other "essentials" to maintain a working Government, but it would be much smaller than it is now and would leave most things up to the States and the individual Citizen.

[timshufflin]

Maintaining a budget would require a meeting once a year to agree on the taxation for the budget and actually drawing up a budget. In order to collect the taxes, we need tax collectors. So I go with Military, Tax Collection, maintaining laws in accordance to the Constitution and maintaining the Eisenhower Interstate system for commerce and miliary transportation when needed. I also go with increasing the Border Patrol and letting them do their job, along with revamping Immigration and Naturalization to be sure that we are sending the illegals back to where they came from, at their expense. I'm sure that I can think of a couple of other "essentials" to maintain a working Government, but it would be much smaller than it is now and would leave most things up to the States and the individual Citizen.

Why KK, what about your precious social security?

[cannonshooter]

My Favorite dead Lib is a tie between Teddy "I like to to go swimming after drinking and driving" Kennedy and FDR who is really the Father of everything that is screwed up now. FDR passed gun control, FDR passed the New Deal FDR got the government so far into our normal lives they can never get out of it.
Now my I would really like to these on the list and will rejoice when they do

Number freaking one: MICHAEL BLOOMTURD Reasons: Illegally got himself re elected after term limits were voted for and in place, Thinks he is the King and not just of NYC,Crusades for gun control and imposes his will on areas that have nothing to do with NYC, Denies normal people their Constitutional rights to Keep and bear arms while he goes everywhere protected by Police Officers. Thinks Muslims are more important than 3,000 people who perished when Muslims flew Airliners into the World Trade Center. Telling us how and what we should eat and drink and lastly for just being a liberal douchebag.

Number Two: Christine Quinn Reasons: Illegally elected to a third term after term limits were imposed and was the reason Bloomturd was able to buy the city council. Advances a Gay agenda over everything else and just a liberal douchebag.

Number 3: Charles Schumer Reasons: He breathes.

Number 4: Charles Barron: Racist Black Panther Party

Number 5 through who knows: Any other liberal who thinks they know better on how I should be living my life and want to impose their Ideals on me.

Mack

[axemurderer]

Mack allthough I hate FDR, I must disagree on him being the father of liberalism. That title has to go to Woodrow Wilson. After all he was the first to want to give control to a world organazation!!!!!

Mike

[cannonshooter]

Ah that may be true but Wilson did not get that accomplished. FDR did get his Socialist Ideals put into place. Also FDR interned American citizens just because of their heritage. Also FDR was a pioneer of the UN and Truman led the way for our entry. Wilson was wrong and the US senate correct to keep us out of the League of Nations. Truman and the Post WW2 senate has us in this mess we are in now. The only thing the UN has ever gotten right was to commit troops to aid South Korea, the fact we could not finish militarily what had been a win and ended up a military stalemate was due to the politicians. We could have won every conflict we have committed troops too since WW2 if the politicians have not handcuffed our military, if they had let them fight a war and not let politics get in the way.
Mack

[timshufflin]

I will not argue the father of socialism for this country, a gray area, but I will crown fdr the KING.

[paid4c4]

I will not argue the father of socialism for this country, a gray area, but I will crown fdr the KING.

FDR would be the king of socialism in this country. Many people in the southern part of the country from his era thought he was King. I can remember my grandparents had a picture of FDR on the mantel and cheeriest him. His programs brought many of these people electricity through the TVA and work through WPA and associated programs. At least WPA required "work". Many of the WPA projects are still around and in use some here in my area. My point isn't to defend FDR it's only to point out how he built such a following. He followed Pavlov's teaching about giving dogs a treat when they hear a bell. FDR gave the people a treat which they paid for through taxes and they not only fell for it they loved it. They loved it so much the people elected Franklin D. Roosevelt four times, in 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944. He assumed the Presidency on March 4, 1933 and died in office on April 12, 1945, serving for a term of 12 years and 1 month. This later caused the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution which limits a president to two terms. The bell is still ringing only there is a different hand ringing it. Obama is ringing the bell with illegal aliens, welfare recipients and other seeking government supplied medical benefits all getting lined up for treats. Let me guess how they'll vote.
Bill

[KnickKnack]

Timma, I think I explained my views on Social Security once before. It has to be totally abandoned for those under 50 years of age right now. Refund whatever money those under 50 have paid into the system and allow them to invest their money in totally tax-free saving programs of their choice for their own retirement. This would be above and beyond whatever their employers may give them for retirement, and not taxed when they earn it and not taxed when they need it. Continue the program for those over 50, with the proper payouts when they reach 62. This would be sustainable if Congress immediately stopped stealing from the system, repaid what it took and invested the collected money so that it earned interest. Then SS would be a thing of the past in about 30 to 40 years.

As an alternative to taking monthly payments for the rest of their lives, those over 62 could elect to take a lump sum, consisting of their total payments into the system, plus compound interest. They would also be allowed to invest this money tax free. I'm sure that many would choose that option, thus being able to eliminate SS quicker.

[timshufflin]

Timma, I think I explained my views on Social Security once before. It has to be totally abandoned for those under 50 years of age right now. Refund whatever money those under 50 have paid into the system and allow them to invest their money in totally tax-free saving programs of their choice for their own retirement. This would be above and beyond whatever their employers may give them for retirement, and not taxed when they earn it and not taxed when they need it. Continue the program for those over 50, with the proper payouts when they reach 62. This would be sustainable if Congress immediately stopped stealing from the system, repaid what it took and invested the collected money so that it earned interest. Then SS would be a thing of the past in about 30 to 40 years.

As an alternative to taking monthly payments for the rest of their lives, those over 62 could elect to take a lump sum, consisting of their total payments into the system, plus compound interest. They would also be allowed to invest this money tax free. I'm sure that many would choose that option, thus being able to eliminate SS quicker.


This is not exactly your last opinion, that said, if you did what you just said, there would be NO money to pay the folks currently on the system. The people in the system NEED those of us who are not collecting to STEAL our loot just as those currently in the system had their loot STOLEN by those before them and those before them had their loot STOLEN. The original collectors of social security, the most pathetic generation, made a deal with the devil (fdr) to enslave all these future generations so that they might have and never had to pay in. It is one of the single biggest fleecings perpetrated on America's youth in all history.

[KnickKnack]

This is not exactly your last opinion, that said, if you did what you just said, there would be NO money to pay the folks currently on the system. The people in the system NEED those of us who are not collecting to STEAL our loot just as those currently in the system had their loot STOLEN by those before them and those before them had their loot STOLEN. The original collectors of social security, the most pathetic generation, made a deal with the devil (fdr) to enslave all these future generations so that they might have and never had to pay in. It is one of the single biggest fleecings perpetrated on America's youth in all history.

OK, maybe I didn't explain it this way before. Anyway, those currently on the system are mostly being supported by those still working, except for the newest entries who are get back what they paid in. Once what they have paid is gone, they should not receive any more. That is why I support the lump sum payment. Those who have already collected all of what they contibuted, plus interest that they could have earned by investing the money (which the Government did for them, but then stole that too), should now be cut out of the system. It is not my problem if they did not save any money on their own. They are living off other's people efforts now.

To simplify this: Pay back whatever workers have paid into the system and let them invest it or throw it away as they see fit. If they can't make it last or don't know how to invest it for the future, then that's just too bad. Those that have gotten all of what they paid in get nothing more. Remember, this was originally set up when people worked longer before retiring and their life span was shorter. The cost of living was much lower and they didn't need as much to survive in retirement. Social Security is another one of those "good ideas" that went bad when the Congress dipped into it. It's a dinosaur, like Medi-Care, that needs to go.

[timshufflin]

OK, maybe I didn't explain it this way before. Anyway, those currently on the system are mostly being supported by those still working, except for the newest entries who are get back what they paid in. Once what they have paid is gone, they should not receive any more. That is why I support the lump sum payment. Those who have already collected all of what they contibuted, plus interest that they could have earned by investing the money (which the Government did for them, but then stole that too), should now be cut out of the system. It is not my problem if they did not save any money on their own. They are living off other's people efforts now.

To simplify this: Pay back whatever workers have paid into the system and let them invest it or throw it away as they see fit. If they can't make it last or don't know how to invest it for the future, then that's just too bad. Those that have gotten all of what they paid in get nothing more. Remember, this was originally set up when people worked longer before retiring and their life span was shorter. The cost of living was much lower and they didn't need as much to survive in retirement. Social Security is another one of those "good ideas" that went bad when the Congress dipped into it. It's a dinosaur, like Medi-Care, that needs to go.


KK, gently now, what you're missing here sir is the GIANT sucking sound from the "most stealing generation" as they stole the loot from every generation to come. That generation, brokaw mistakenly calls it the "greatest generation", paid NOTHING into the system. This means that the government used the money of the people in that work force to pay that first group of thieves.

To put this simply, you tell your kids right now that you want them to pay you $2000 a month at this time because you say so. That is $24,000 in a year.

You die after 20 years and you collect $480,000 during that time. In that time, your kid needs to retire at your death. Your kid stops the cycle though and tells his kid he is not going to enslave him as you did to your child. Now, how does your son get his money back? He cannot, you stole it.

Even if your son just asked for the money that his son had been paying for the last 20 years, how does his son get his money? His kid hadn't even started working yet or may not even have been born.

[KnickKnack]

I guess you are talking about the first group of retirees to receive Social Security. OK, they may not have paid into the program, per se, as it not exist while they were working. But I would use your Michigan Tax for Obamacare as an example. Those people did pay taxes of some sort in their lifetimes, so they were getting back money that they earned and paid to the Government. As for your example of my son paying me $2000 a month, I would still be losing money, since over the course of my son's life, I invested much more than that in him. When my kids were all still under 18, it was extimated that it took $1 million to raise just one child in America. I had 3. I'm sure it costs a lot more than that now.

[timshufflin]

I guess you are talking about the first group of retirees to receive Social Security. OK, they may not have paid into the program, per se, as it not exist while they were working. But I would use your Michigan Tax for Obamacare as an example. Those people did pay taxes of some sort in their lifetimes, so they were getting back money that they earned and paid to the Government. As for your example of my son paying me $2000 a month, I would still be losing money, since over the course of my son's life, I invested much more than that in him. When my kids were all still under 18, it was extimated that it took $1 million to raise just one child in America. I had 3. I'm sure it costs a lot more than that now.


KK, social security has its own fund. NO taxes that were paid by the first social security beneficiaries were paid into that fund. They did not pay ANY social security taxes in general, in specific, in imagination, or per se, they paid NOTHING to social security.

I will pay much more raising my kids then the social security benefits I will receive as well. What does this have to do with anything? I freely made my choice to have two children, I couldn't afford more as I have to pay for everyone else's too, and this does not give me the right to enslave them in adulthood.

[Punch The Clown]

Does all this mean FDR is your fave deceased liberal?

[KnickKnack]

KK, social security has its own fund. NO taxes that were paid by the first social security beneficiaries were paid into that fund. They did not pay ANY social security taxes in general, in specific, in imagination, or per se, they paid NOTHING to social security.

I will pay much more raising my kids then the social security benefits I will receive as well. What does this have to do with anything? I freely made my choice to have two children, I couldn't afford more as I have to pay for everyone else's too, and this does not give me the right to enslave them in adulthood.

You're the one that started the thing about asking my kids for money. I don't know what it had to do with SS either. So if you don't know, then we both don't know.

OK, let me try this again.

We enact a law where a group of people will receive money from the Federal Budget. We call it Social Security. In order to pay the first group of people eligible for this money, we have to take it from somewhere. So, ok, we start taking money from working people and put it into the fund, then pay other people in the first group with it. However, it's just like your Obamacare example. That first group of people also pay taxes. Those taxes go into pot A. The Social Securtiy payments go into pot B. Now, the payments from pot B pay the first group, but the payments from pot A pay for everything else. So everyone is benefiting from both pots. It doesn't matter if you mix the pots or not, it's still all Federal money. In fact, thise was proven when Congress starting using SS money for "everything else". In reality, no mater how you pay your taxes into the Federal Government, there is only one Treasury and only one pot. It's like the tax money that goes to Planned Parenthood. They say that none of that money, by law, goes to abortions. But how do you prove that? It's all mixed in with the other money. So maybe $100 of tax money pays the light bill and $100 of donations pays for an abortion. You still started with $200 and paid it out from one pot.

[timshufflin]

KK, the first people who actually PAID for social security PAID and EXTRA tax for it. NO EXTRA tax was paid by the first people who received it. Therefore, the first recipients did NOT pay into the system.

You cannot simply let those who are currently retired take their social security and and tell those paying right now that they no longer have to pay and here's your money back. If you did this, the people currently retired would not be able to receive anymore money, there wouldn't be any.

Sean once tried to explain this to you, I fear I have failed as well.

[KnickKnack]

And I tried to explain that the money is, in fact, there, it's just been "moved" by the Congress. Move it back, pay back what was paid in to those who have not yet collected their share back, stop paying the others (maybe tax them for any extra they got above and beyond their contributions and interest?) and abolish this system for those under 50. Or 55. Pick an age. It doesn't matter. The system is so broken, there is no other way to fix it. Let the individual invest his own money as he sees fit, tax free, for his or her retirement.

[Punch The Clown]

KK makes sense. If you rob a bank and get caught I'm sure you have to pay the money back. Let congress do the same.

[timshufflin]

And I tried to explain that the money is, in fact, there, it's just been "moved" by the Congress. Move it back, pay back what was paid in to those who have not yet collected their share back, stop paying the others (maybe tax them for any extra they got above and beyond their contributions and interest?) and abolish this system for those under 50. Or 55. Pick an age. It doesn't matter. The system is so broken, there is no other way to fix it. Let the individual invest his own money as he sees fit, tax free, for his or her retirement.


KK, my money is GONE. Where did it go? It is going to every retiree who is currently on the dole. It is gone, gone forever. When and if I get any money it will be stolen from my and your children.

Tims plan for Social security ready?
Bill gets social security right now, he never paid in but he's old
Dan and Al get taxed right now to pay for bill.
20 years later, I end my plan. Dan and AL want their money.
Dan and Al can't get their money because Bill is dead and spent their money.
Dan and Al want me to give them my money to pay them back. I don't have any money, I gave it to Bill.

Is this so hard to understand? It seems like simple math. Now, I could print some money and pay Dan and Al, but it would be worth NOTHING.

[seaninmich]

KK, my money is GONE. Where did it go? It is going to every retiree who is currently on the dole. It is gone, gone forever. When and if I get any money it will be stolen from my and your children.

Tims plan for Social security ready?
Bill gets social security right now, he never paid in but he's old
Dan and Al get taxed right now to pay for bill.
20 years later, I end my plan. Dan and AL want their money.
Dan and Al can't get their money because Bill is dead and spent their money.
Dan and Al want me to give them my money to pay them back. I don't have any money, I gave it to Bill.

Is this so hard to understand? It seems like simple math. Now, I could print some money and pay Dan and Al, but it would be worth NOTHING.


Tim, you're standing over the toilet bowl trying to talk logic and sense the last #$% you dropped. Do yourself a favor and just flush. You're never going to have a break through

[KnickKnack]

You have left a lot of facts out of your argument and you refuse to see the other side of the debate. It's much like watching edited news reports from NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. I tried to explain what happened, how it worked, before Congress dipped into the fund. I tried to explain the Congress has taken the money and used it in other places, while still bringing in revenue, in the form of taxes or borrowing. There is still money in the Treasury. That money just needs to be focused in the correct places, ie, ending Social Security in the manner or similiar to which I explained. It is obvous that you have no desire to debate, but rather to preach. It is your forum, I thank you for the chance to speak in it, but at the end of the day, you still own the forum and your ideas will always prevail. I await the outcome of the November elections to see if America is truly dead, as I now believe that it is. The Constitution is being trampled on by one side and waved vigorously by the other. Trampling it destroys it. Waving it shreds it. Both sides are destroying the Principles by their arrongence and entrenchment. Good Luck and Good Day.

[KnickKnack]

Tim, you're standing over the toilet bowl trying to talk logic and sense the last log you dropped. Do yourself a favor and just flush. You're never going to have a break through

I don't know what I have done to you, but I do not appreciate being called a piece of @#$% just because I chose to debate an issue. That is the tactic of the Liberals when they have nothing to add to the debate and are losing it; call the other side nasty, dirty names. I never thought of you as a Liberal, but now you use the same tactic. I honestly thought that you were a better man than that. I wish you nothing but the best and hope that someday you can put aside the hate.

[timshufflin]

You have left a lot of facts out of your argument and you refuse to see the other side of the debate. It's much like watching edited news reports from NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. I tried to explain what happened, how it worked, before Congress dipped into the fund. I tried to explain the Congress has taken the money and used it in other places, while still bringing in revenue, in the form of taxes or borrowing. There is still money in the Treasury. That money just needs to be focused in the correct places, ie, ending Social Security in the manner or similiar to which I explained. It is obvous that you have no desire to debate, but rather to preach. It is your forum, I thank you for the chance to speak in it, but at the end of the day, you still own the forum and your ideas will always prevail. I await the outcome of the November elections to see if America is truly dead, as I now believe that it is. The Constitution is being trampled on by one side and waved vigorously by the other. Trampling it destroys it. Waving it shreds it. Both sides are destroying the Principles by their arrongence and entrenchment. Good Luck and Good Day.

Preach? You just preached to me and I accept it and don't mind it a bit. I can take as good as I can give.

[timshufflin]

I don't know what I have done to you, but I do not appreciate being called a piece of @#$% just because I chose to debate an issue. That is the tactic of the Liberals when they have nothing to add to the debate and are losing it; call the other side nasty, dirty names. I never thought of you as a Liberal, but now you use the same tactic. I honestly thought that you were a better man than that. I wish you nothing but the best and hope that someday you can put aside the hate.

LMAO, now that is some funny stuff. You gentleman are killing me.

[KnickKnack]

LMAO, now that is some funny stuff. You gentleman are killing me.

I'm glad you got a laugh out of it at my expense. Apparently you can no longer sort serious comments from humorous ones.

[timshufflin]

I'm glad you got a laugh out of it at my expense. Apparently you can no longer sort serious comments from humorous ones.

KK, you used the most profane word of all and you want empathy? You may as well went after his mother. I laugh at everyone's expense and you still haven't answered my question about congress and voting, why you dodging?

[Punch The Clown]

We were talking about dead liberals and somehow I think we got off track.

[timshufflin]

We were talking about dead liberals and somehow I think we got off track.


Well, you are a mod and it is your thread, moderate it.

[Punch The Clown]

Time to revive this thread, but this time let's try to stay on track. Keep in mind we cannot openly threaten our "favorite" libs, but we can speculate that the world would be a better place if they were in a better place. So, I'm sure she's been mentioned before but once again how about a big round of applause for dianne feinstein!

Edited-Grammar error. Sorry

[dpd3672]

Debbie Wasserman Shultz is high on my list, since you brought up girls.

Absolutely disgusting, in every way a woman, or a human for that matter, can be.

[Punch The Clown]

http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo140/Stumedic/hillary-42185594070.jpg

I just scared myself!

[axemurderer]

How about liz Warren, I think both the native Americans and the state of massachusetts would be better off without her!

[Punch The Clown]

How about liz Warren, I think both the native Americans and the state of massachusetts would be better off without her!

Axe, you know the rules about grammar! You used upper case on warren!!!

A big Battle Tested Congrats to frank lautenberg!

[Punch The Clown]

We've been lax on the upper/lower case rule so I'm sorry to say I had to give out infractions. Sorry.

[dpd3672]

We've been lax on the upper/lower case rule so I'm sorry to say I had to give out infractions. Sorry.

Sorry, I'll try to do better in the future. The liberal indoctrination of my public school upbringing is showing through.

[1gr8shot]

fdr is evil but woodrow wilson would have made him his bi**h. I dont know if anyone already mentioned him but he's head a$$hole on my favorite dead lib totem pole.