Garand historical guardianship

This argument is plain silly. The idea that a well meaning collector could damage a rifle like one of you hacks is laughable. Someone who shoots his rifle properly, as a well meaninged custodian should, should in no way be compared to a common shooter like one of you. I have no idea how the CMP even justifies anyone in one of your common pay grades to even own one of these artifacts.

It is no surprise that Tony Giacobbe's spring doesn't work. If someone wants something made with class and qualifying as elite status, go to Orion 7 and tell them Fogtripper sent you.

1. Perhaps a few M1 Rifle Cal. .30's were made to be saved for historical purposes. The rest were built to go to War and kill people. No one building them expected them to have any other historical value.

2. Each of us has a limited amount of time on Earth. As much as 85 years +/- if you are one of the lucky ones. During that time you may obtain hundreds of items that you use every day and never think of them as "Historical". Some future generation may, but you won't. While you are here, it's your stuff to use, abuse, love, or hate. Enjoy it while you can.

3. At some point in time, no one knows exactly when, the point will be mute because some major natural disastor will finally wipe out the Earth, along with everyone and everything on it. There will be no one left to appreciate the "Historical Value" of anything. Nor will there be any monotary value to anything either. The definitions of both historical and monotary values are man-made inventions and arbitrary at best.

Go outside tonight in the pitch black and look up at the stars for awhile. Recognize your insignificant existance compared to the vastness of the Universe. Then come back inside, have a beer and appreciate what you have while you have it.

Now stop your whining and complaining and live your life! Babies!

"I have no idea how the CMP even justifies anyone in one of your common pay grades to even own one of these artifacts."

LOL. Last time I looked, the CMP was a quasi-governmental entity that was tasked with selling surplus government weapons. Oh yeah, and to make a show at supporting civilian marksmanship while doing it. I don't recall seeing anything on their website about improving or supporting the historical collections of anyone. They seem to have no problems confusing a military firearm with an actual historical 'artifact'. And they sure don't have any problems with selling them to anyone with the cash to buy them.

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Originally Posted by Fogtripper

This argument is plain silly. The idea that a well meaning collector could damage a rifle like one of you hacks is laughable. Someone who shoots his rifle properly, as a well meaninged custodian should, should in no way be compared to a common shooter like one of you. I have no idea how the CMP even justifies anyone in one of your common pay grades to even own one of these artifacts.

It is no surprise that Tony Giacobbe's spring doesn't work. If someone wants something made with class and qualifying as elite status, go to Orion 7 and tell them Fogtripper sent you.

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So pedestrian...

It's my rifle.

I bought it. I can do what I want with it. I can even break the law with it, but I will pay the price.

If you think I shouldn't have it, then offer me 3 times what is worth and I might sell it to you. Or I just might break it front of your eyes to piss you off.

I think in todays nanny state mentality the concept ownership is an endangered species.

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Originally Posted by Orlando

The German could make them

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Yup. Herr Wehrle can do anything.

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Originally Posted by sandsnow

It's my rifle.

I bought it. I can do what I want with it. I can even break the law with it, but I will pay the price.

If you think I shouldn't have it, then offer me 3 times what is worth and I might sell it to you. Or I just might break it front of your eyes to piss you off.

I think in todays nanny state mentality the concept ownership is an endangered species.

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I read a story once from a dealer of toy trains. He was selling at a toy train show one time and some guy kept coming up to his table all day, offering him $10 for 4 lead figures of train people, that he clearly had marked $30. Finally, at the end of the day, the guy came back one last time, with the same offer. The dealer stared at him for a minute, placed the figures on the floor and ground them in with the heal of his shoe. Then he told the guy, "Now I'll take $10 for them!". Classic! :)

Shame you think that is classic. I will never ruin my stuff to prove that point. I do not let anyone upset me during a buy and guess it is maturity from learning how to deal with people. Rick B

You made me think of how at just about every show in Ohio I go to there is a handful of sellers who will always ask to see what I have and then hand it back. Most of the times with some comments to make my 20.00 bill only worth 10 bucks if you get my drift. I finally decided to tell them when they would try to call me over,,, Naw that's ok, you have looked at everything I have ever brought to the shows and never bought one thing along with degrade my items. Would you believe all of them have treated me allot better and even bought some of my stuff the last year. I was even apologized to by two of them. That is the honest to Gods truth. Rick B

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Originally Posted by Fogtripper

I have no idea how the CMP even justifies anyone in one of your common pay grades to even own one of these artifacts.

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I guess you can't own any either