Medium grey parkerization

Anyone here have a park job with this color? With Pics.

You mean the Zinc?
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...Picture079.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...k/MVC-002F.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...k/MVC-007F.jpg

It's funny... the top and bottom pic is darker than the middle pic. But the top one resembles mine.

All the same rifle, its mostly the lighting but also the two bottom pics were taken 3-4 years ago and park was dry.
I have since rubbed grease into the park and I do think the color has change some since. The top pic was taken a few months ago

Here's my Mini-G when it was factory fresh from Germany! :D


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...0Metal/015.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...0Metal/011.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...0Metal/008.jpg

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Originally Posted by Cal30M1

Here's my Mini-G when it was factory fresh from Germany! :D

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Herr Werle does some beautiful work! What's his turn-around time?

The next time I have one done I am going to give serious consideration to going with the zinc park.

Last one I had done I asked Tim to do a 2-tone for me. The receiver and barrel were zinc, everything else (sights, bolt, clip latch..etc.) was done manganeese. It was beautiful. I'm thinking of sending in another for the same job.

7 days from my PO back to my door!

Herr Werle paid shipping both ways too!

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Originally Posted by canes7

Last one I had done I asked Tim to do a 2-tone for me. The receiver and barrel were zinc, everything else (sights, bolt, clip latch..etc.) was done manganeese. It was beautiful. I'm thinking of sending in another for the same job.

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Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

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Maybe he could mix the zinc and manganese? Or, maybe swirl them together like a chocolate/vanilla soft-serve icecream cone on a hot summer day. That would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Any pics, sounds interesting

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Here ya go Orlando. Crappy pics taken with iPhone is all I have of this rifle.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...SA/garand2.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...SA/garand1.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...SA/garand3.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/f...SA/garand4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Any pics, sounds interesting

I wish Tim offered and color in between the gray zinc and black manganese

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I wonder what would happen if you mixed the two solutions?

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Originally Posted by herrmann

I wonder what would happen if you mixed the two solutions?

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They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

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Originally Posted by timshufflin

They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

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And here I thought you were the NOG man !

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Originally Posted by timshufflin

They still seem to park but correctly but I have not experimented enough to really have a grasp. If there were a market for it, I'd set up a third booth and give it a whirl, there is no such market though.

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How dare you cater to only markets which you can profit from! I think the Obumunites shall sway public sentiment against you until the day you provide for the whims of all!

I'd have to say, this is the nicest M-1 Garand NM rifle I have ever seen minus the red grease.

I would be up for something between the two colors. I'm just not a fan of the black

Canes,
That is a interesting contrast on your rifle

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Originally Posted by canes7

Here ya go Orlando. Crappy pics taken with iPhone is all I have of this rifle.

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Originally Posted by milboltnut

I'd have to say, this is the nicest M-1 Garand NM rifle I have ever seen minus the red grease.

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Wow! That looks GREAT!

Eli

would there be any benefit to mixing park solutions?Does Manganese wear differently than zinc,or rather,withstand wear better?Would mixing combine each's qualities and make an uber park?

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Originally Posted by Prince Humperdink

would there be any benefit to mixing park solutions?Does Manganese wear differently than zinc,or rather,withstand wear better?Would mixing combine each's qualities and make an uber park?

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I had some parts done by a guy and they turned out a darker grey. I cant remember know what type solution he said he used, but I really liked the color

The two parks have different results on the salt water test. This means nothing to us because we aren't doing any beach landings.

Thanks Milboltnut for starting this thread. I've got an SA/IHC receiver that needs some loving. I was going to email Mr. Tim with the same question - does he have the abilility to park the receiver inbetween the light gray of zinc and the coal black of manganese.

Mr. Tim - How many of us would have to order the medium color before it would become economical for you to do it?

-wg

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Originally Posted by wgandy

Thanks Milboltnut for starting this thread. I've got an SA/IHC receiver that needs some loving. I was going to email Mr. Tim with the same question - does he have the abilility to park the receiver inbetween the light gray of zinc and the coal black of manganese.

Mr. Tim - How many of us would have to order the medium color before it would become economical for you to do it?

-wg

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4 rifles per month, for 15 years.

Thanks Tim.....so I won't be holding my breath on that option......;)

All phosphating comes out light or dark grey. If you cover it with green-colored grease, it will turn green. I once turned a freshly blued gas cylinder set green by putting green grease on it.

Winchester used Picric Acid on the metal before phosphating, which is why their finish came out so light. It probably turned green when packed in cosmoline.

Phosphate mix will yield a light grey color; whereas manganese will yield a darker grey-black color. There are pre-dips available that will come out black. The disadvantage of the light grey is that the parts will come out different shades, depending on the hardness of the metal; hard metal will come out light, & softer metal will come out dark.

If you mix the light grey phosphate with the darker manganese, you will get a medium grey.

What about the "green" WRA park? How was that acheived? Anyone know?

Dan, that 2 tone park is hot! :) What did you use in the lettering to get it to stand out?

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Originally Posted by KnickKnack

Dan, that 2 tone park is hot! :) What did you use in the lettering to get it to stand out?

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China White marker. I bought them from eBay. They were 2 for $1 delivered. That was at least 6 years ago I got 'em, I've only used 10% of one.

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Originally Posted by timshufflin

The two parks have different results on the salt water test. This means nothing to us because we aren't doing any beach landings.

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Or are we?

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Originally Posted by HerkFE

Or are we?

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If you are, you live somewhere far from me.

I'm not, but someone could be, I guess. It made more sense to me this morning.

And I AM just about as far away from you as anyone could get...

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Originally Posted by HerkFE

Or are we?

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There is a really good chance that we are. I just saw a re-enactment of the D-Day landings on television, and it was held in Ohio on the shores of whatever that big lake is up there. Lots of beaches in the Great Lakes. :) I think they are all fresh water, though, so maybe the salt water test will only apply if we storm a beach on the coasts or the Gulf.

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Originally Posted by The Garand Guy

All phosphating comes out light or dark grey. If you cover it with green-colored grease, it will turn green. I once turned a freshly blued gas cylinder set green by putting green grease on it.

Winchester used Picric Acid on the metal before phosphating, which is why their finish came out so light. It probably turned green when packed in cosmoline.

Phosphate mix will yield a light grey color; whereas manganese will yield a darker grey-black color. There are pre-dips available that will come out black. The disadvantage of the light grey is that the parts will come out different shades, depending on the hardness of the metal; hard metal will come out light, & softer metal will come out dark.

If you mix the light grey phosphate with the darker manganese, you will get a medium grey.

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I think you answered my question about how WRA parts turn green, even before I asked the question! :)

Does Herr Wehrle do medium gray?

I'm psychic.

Uncle Timmy,
I have a Field Grade on the way from CMP - I would be interested in a medium grey park if you decide to make such a special color run available.

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Originally Posted by melloman

Uncle Timmy,
I have a Field Grade on the way - I would be interested in a medium grey park if you decide to make such a special color run available.

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Well we have two people in line, anyone else??

I've got a couple that would look awesome in medium gray.

Maybe there is a demand for medium gray??